Monday, February 13, 2017

Misrepresentation and fabrication by Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu against me; Beware of Arun Srinivas, alumnus of Muddenahalli school - Part 2

Last updated on 13th Apr. 2017

[14-Mar-2017 Update: Readers may please see my important post, Bhaskar Iyer of Melbourne, Australia is collaborating with, OR IS, fake Id Facebook bully & conspirator Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2017/03/bhaskar-iyer-of-melbourne-australia-is.html, dated March 9th 2017. end-Update]

This post contains overflow from post, Misrepresentation and fabrication by Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu against me; Beware of Arun Srinivas, alumnus of Muddenahalli school - Part 1, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2017/02/my-facebook-posts-related-to.html. Given below are contents of a set of Facebook posts written by me from 4th Feb. 2017 to 21st Feb. 2017 [and two posts dated 5th April 2017 and 12th April 2017], related to misrepresentation and fabrication by Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu against me (and some others).

20) I have a message for Muddenahalli group trolls,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858240424392526

21) Blocked Mr. V.R. Ganti again; Why I blocked him,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858290811054154

22) An overview of my interactions with Mr. V.R. Ganti whom I have now blocked (sadly),
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858495307700371

23) Contents of short FB posts giving links to Michael Jackson videos that I felt appropriate to watch and then share on FB (in my situation then after around 5pm on Feb. 5th)

24) Message in Hindi to Muddenahalli group troll, Facebook fake Id Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858616141021621

25) Another Message, in Telugu this time, to Facebook fake ID Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1859015334315035

26) Clive Raj Valydon's post, When I accidentally dragged my name through the gutter due to my Immaturity., https://www.facebook.com/sathyanarayana.raju.9/posts/961661143970370

27) Facebook Fake ID Bully and Conspirator Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident wrote some stupid short comment ..., https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860777300805505

28) Mr. V.R. Ganti's mail to me, "Abstain from commenting about me"; My mail response to him, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860844417465460

29) Mr. V.R. Ganti response to me and my response back to him,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860983460784889

30) Blocked Mr. V.R. Ganti again, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1861893877360514

31) Some psychiatric opinion I saw which seems to be appropriate for Facebook fake Id bully, Venkatesh Babu, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1862741790609056

32) Don't argue with idiots, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1866140546935847

33) Need suggestions on whether I should respond to Mr. Ganti's recent email to me, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1887838384766063

34) Sathyameva Jayate! Offensive & disgusting comment of Facebook Fake Id bully & conspirator Venkatesh Babu has been deleted from Mr. Ganti's post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1891840024365899

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Contents of above mentioned Facebook posts

20) I have a message for Muddenahalli group trolls,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858240424392526 dated February 4th at 10:25pm

In the past few days, as it was the first time I got framed viciously on Facebook, I struggled to recover and then attempt to punish the Facebook fake Id who framed me. Due to some sensitivities I decided to FOREGO my right as a law-abiding Indian citizen to file a cyber police complaint against Facebook fake Id Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident.

But now I am well versed with not only how Facebook handles these complaints giving a wide level of liberty to Facebook post and comment authors, but also about how to make a cyber police complaint in India against false and malicious charges made against me.

So Muddenahalli group trolls like Venkatesh Babu, beware! If you mess around with me again, indulging in fabrication of screenshots and similar other devilish things, to falsely portray something about me, and I get to know about it and get really bugged about it, and there is no other person involved who may be worried about publicity, I will surely make the cyber police complaint. I will invest time & money to go after such cases.

And Muddenahalli group trolls living in India need to be even more careful with such things against me in future which become big enough that they are brought to my notice and which I get really bugged about. [Note that I ignore jokers saying foolish things and indulging in name-calling by just blocking them.]

Defamation is both a CRIMINAL and a CIVIL offence in India. So if I get really bugged by a Muddenahalli group troll in future trying to frame me into some nasty stuff, I might seriously consider cyber police complaint/investing money and time to identify him, and then if he is an Indian, file a CRIMINAL defamation case against him.

Mind you, once convicted of any crime (including defamation), one gets a police record as a CRIMINAL.

So I have given my warning. If any Sai school/university alumni (Venkatesh Babu claims to be Sai university alumnus) or anybody else who is misguided by Muddenahalli group and its so called communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu, and tries to play, to use a phrase I read from some recent Muddenahalli group stuff, "political Krishna" role, against me, he may get exposed as a Paundraka (Krishna imitator who was delivered "justice" by the real Krishna) and get judged a criminal, under the Indian Penal Code.
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21) Blocked Mr. V.R. Ganti again; Why I blocked him,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858290811054154 dated February 5th at 12:36am

Two days or so ago, I had unblocked Mr. V.R. Ganti to make Facebook complaints against one of his posts and one comment on that post.

Now I have blocked Mr. V.R. Ganti again. I felt it appropriate to inform that to my Facebook friends and followers.

I DO NOT APPROVE of elders of Sathya Sai fraternity on Facebook like Mr. V.R. Ganti, who have over a thousand Facebook friends and followers, behaving irresponsibly by allowing their Facebook posts to be used through comments on such posts by fake Facebook Id persons like Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, as a platform to spread vicious, vile and false charges about respected office bearers of the Sai organization.

A position/stand that the Facebook post author is not responsible for any content of comment(s) made by others on his/her Facebook post even when complaints have been made to him about such specific comment(s), which is the stand that Mr. V.R. Ganti has taken, is NOT in accordance with Sathya and Dharma, in my considered opinion. In fact, it is my view that Mr. V.R. Ganti by behaving in this manner, is promoting the spread of Asathya & Adharma through comments made by Facebook fake ID persons like Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident on Mr. Ganti's post(s).

Therefore I have decided to stay away from and not interact anymore with Mr. V.R. Ganti and so have blocked him on Facebook.
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22) An overview of my interactions with Mr. V.R. Ganti whom I have now blocked (sadly),
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858495307700371 dated February 5 at 12:18pm

As a followup to my recent post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858290811054154, where I reported that I have blocked Mr. V.R. Ganti and gave my reasons for doing so, I have put up this post. This post is composed from recent comments of mine, collapsed into one post and slightly edited, from the above mentioned recent post of mine.

I felt it appropriate to give an overview of my interactions with Mr. Ganti which started in the first half of 2015 if I recall correctly, perhaps around nine months or so after Madhusudan Rao Naidu burst on the Sathya Sai community scene in May 2014 publicly "declaring" his so called communicator claim.

Prof. G. Venkataraman (GV sir) then heading Radio Sai wrote in July 2014 an article in Radio Sai, challenging and refuting the claims made by Madhusudan Rao Naidu. I wrote a blog post referring to that article of GV sir, giving my views on the matter. That blog post of mine, Radio Sai article on recent Swami (Sathya Sai Baba) subtle form appearance controversy, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2014/07/radio-sai-article-on-recent-swami.html, dated July 11th 2014, shows a viewed count of 12,945 when I checked today, and is by far the most viewed post of that blog of mine which has Sathya Sai related blog posts of mine (and some other posts related to religion and spirituality).

However, after this Radio Sai article in July 2014, Radio Sai did not play any significant role in directly refuting Muddenahalli group claims. Perhaps they had their constraints and so decided to play safe by rarely referring to Muddenahalli group claims directly, and instead only stating Bhagavan's key instructions in this regard that Bhagavan's relation with his devotees is heart-to-heart and that Bhagavan never uses any intermediaries for such matters.

Meanwhile belief in Madhusudan Rao Naidu's so called communicator claims started growing at a great pace with many Sai devotees worldwide associating with him and with other leaders of Muddenahalli group like Sri Narasimhamurthy, Mr. Isaac Tigrett, Sri C. Srinivas etc.

By March 2015, I had got enough information, conveyed by Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju in his talks where he was questioned by Sai devotees about Muddenhalli, and in private conversations he had with others which was conveyed to me, that Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Muddenahalli group had become a SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT to post-Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement.

Radio Sai and other dissemination wings of official Prasanthi Nilayam ashram were largely SILENT and not criticizing Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Muddenahalli group by name. This created an environment where association with Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Muddenahalli group was viewed as acceptable by Sai devotees, in my considered opinion.

It is in this vacuum that people who started writing, in their individual capacity, exposing the claims of Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Muddenahalli group BY NAME and backing the views with details/evidence, started becoming somewhat noted in Sathya Sai circles. SaiBliss Facebook posts, Terry Reis Kennedy's Facebook posts, my blog and later Facebook posts, and Mr. V.R. Ganti's emails and later Facebook posts exposing Muddenahalli group claims became a major source of information to Sathya Sai devotees wanting to know about the matter. It is my considered view that these names (including mine) got prominence simply because the official dissemination wings of Prasanthi Nilayam, like Radio Sai and Sanathana Sarathi chose to remain largely SILENT on this matter, perhaps due to some constraints they had.

Mr. V.R. Ganti did major work in approaching leaders and important people in both Prasanthi Nilayam system as well as Muddenahalli group, to investigate the matter, share the matter with his readers, and try hard to get Muddenahalli group to give up Madhusudan Rao Naidu's communicator claims and unite back with Prasanthi Nilayam based official Sai organization. He also shared the history of how this Muddenahalli group started, and who were the key people who supported Muddenahalli group and Narasimhamurthy in particular, right from July 2011 onwards. I will NEVER FORGET this great service done by Mr. V.R. Ganti to the post Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement. My blog post, Selected Facebook Notes on "Muddenahalli Saga" by Mr. V.R. Ganti, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2015/08/some-important-facebook-notes-on.html, dated Aug. 7th 2015, shares many extracts from Mr. Ganti's posts on this matter, and links to the associated Facebook posts of Mr. Ganti.

I and some others who were supportive of Prasanthi Nilayam and opposed the SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT posed by Muddenahalli group to post Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement, collaborated with Mr. Ganti on this work of his. I am very happy that I did so then as Mr. Ganti's work then informed the Sathya Sai devotee community worldwide about the history of Muddenahalli group and significantly contributed to exposing the false claim of its communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu.

However, sometime perhaps in 2016, Mr. Ganti started becoming very aggressive and started very harshly criticizing Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust and its trustees. That is when Mr. Ganti started becoming a problem to people like me who are publicly (and privately) supportive of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT) and Prasanthi Nilayam. I publicly countered some of his criticism of SSSCT and its trustees which strained my relationship with Mr. Ganti.

But as he also continued to aggressively expose some wrongdoings of Muddenahalli group and was unstinted in his rejection of Madhusudan Rao Naidu's claims, I decided to take a path of opposing him on SSSCT criticism and co-operation on exposure of false claim of Madhusudan Rao Naidu. It was a difficult balance to strike. But I was able to manage it reasonably for some time. Further, Mr. Ganti had come to my support publicly and strongly, when I was viciously attacked by some persons on social media in the past. I was and still am grateful to him for that support that he had extended to me.

However, over the past few weeks, Mr. Ganti seems to have collaborated with people like Arun Srinivas of Muddenahalli (who is against Muddenahalli group of Madhusudan Naidu and Narasimhamurthy) and Facebook fake Id Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu, who have used viciously personal, malicious and false attacks against an SSSCT trustee. I think in these matters, Mr. Ganti, Arun Srinivas and Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu seem to have got consumed by hatred, due to which they have lost basic human decency, let alone the Sathya, Dharma, Shanti and Prema values taught by our beloved Lord, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

In this post-Mahasamdhi phase of the Sathya Sai movement, polite and fair criticism of SSSCT and official Sai orgn. with a view to improve SSSCT and Sai orgn. is acceptable, in my considered view. But what Mr. Ganti has got dragged down into cannot be viewed as polite and fair criticism.

It has been painful for me to see how Mr. Ganti has lost his way, consumed by his hatred of some people in SSSCT & Prasanthi Nilayam based official Sai orgn. I earnestly pray to Bhagavan to show Mr. V.R. Ganti the right way of Sathya, Dharma, Shanti & Prema, and desist from making or associating with viciously personal, malicious and false attacks against SSSCT and Prasanthi Nilayam based Sai orgn. leaders.

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23) Contents of short FB posts giving links to Michael Jackson videos that I felt appropriate to watch and then share on FB (in my situation then after around 5pm on Feb. 5th)

Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal (Official Video), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_D3VFfhvs4 9 min, 25 secs. Enjoyed watching this now. Felt it to be appropriate watching for me now :-),

And this is appropriate too, Michael Jackson- Bad [HD 1080p], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL8QY0SNEq0, 7 min. 22 secs. Enjoyed watching this too :-)
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24) Message in Hindi to Muddenahalli group troll, Facebook fake Id Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1858616141021621 dated February 5th at 5:52pm

And a message in Hindi (I was born and bred in Mumbai) to the Muddenahalli group troll, Facebook fake Id Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident:

Tu bach gaya sala, is waqt!

Hamse dushmani mehengi padegi, yaad rakhna!
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Some comments from above post are given below:

Venkatesh Babu wrote:
Apun Se Panga Nai Lene Kaaaa. Kyaaaa?.. that is Mumbai Hindi.. you have stayed outside for too long..
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Good that you got the message. There are various kinds of Hindi in Mumbai - you are talking the Hindi which you may have seen in some movies from recent decades. But the Hindi that I wrote comes from my days in the past in real life Mumbai (not reel life Mumbai). What is important is for you to get the message. I think you have got it now.
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25) Another Message, in Telugu this time, to Facebook fake ID Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1859015334315035 dated February 6th at 3:20pm

Another message from me to Facebook fake ID Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident is given below. Note that I had put this up earlier as part of a comment in a previous post of mine but felt it appropriate to put it up as a separate post (and delete this part of the comment).

I get the impression you are Telugu, or at least speak and understand Telugu. My Puttaparthi street Telugu is not so great but I usually manage to communicate the message. So here's a longer message to you in my not-so-great Puttaparthi street Telugu mixed with some English words (where my limited knowledge of Telugu fails me or where the English words are common usage in such Puttaparthi street Telugu).

Naaku neevu oka Facebook Ravanaasurudu ra. Eesaari tapinchukonnavu (This time you escaped). Oka trusteee peru vacchindi ee vishayam (topic) lo. Anduvalana inka publicity vaddu cheppesi, nenu nee meeda cyber police complaint cheyattamu, inka cyber detection, vere investigation chesi, nee 'real identity' emi telusukoni, tarvatha nee meeda CRIMINAL defamation court case pettadamu (neevu foreignlo unna kuda neeku nenu Indialo court and police problem chevacchu) - evanni nenu manesanu.

Kaani! Malli neevu naa meeda ila emaina kutra (conspiracy) chesina - Facebook kutra ka vacchu, vere Internet kutra ka vacchu, Puttaparthilo na meeda real life kutra kaa vachu (including kottadamu/physical attack) - nenu ninnu vadalnu. Naku koncham vayasaiyindi ra, konni health problem unnayi. Kaani Prasanthi Nilayam and Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust Seethamma Thallini kapadadaniki, nenu Jatayu laa ga nee lanti Ravanasuruduto poratamu chestanu (I will fight you). Nenu bhayapadanu! Naaku chaavu bhayyamu ledu raa. Nenu ee dehamu kaadu! Gurtu pettu! Sare? (Okay?) Jai Sairam!
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Some comments on the above post are given below:

Venkatesh Babu wrote:
Sir I appreciate your sentiments. Please rein in your friends AP_Ramesh and Clive Raj to not speak ill of Swami's other family members in Public. They also belong to the same Ratnakara Vamsha.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Fake ID Brother Venkatesh Babu: You may please speak directly to Ap Ramesh sir and brother Clive Raj Valydon. I do not want to interfere in between.
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26) Clive Raj Valydon's post, When I accidentally dragged my name through the gutter due to my Immaturity., https://www.facebook.com/sathyanarayana.raju.9/posts/961661143970370 dated February 9th 2017

When I accidentally dragged my name through the gutter due to my Immaturity.

The only 3 people that stood up for me was Ravi S. Iyer Shaun Brown and Ap ramesh.

I thank them

No one else said a word about my character even though they know what kind of person I am.

It is because of that I have decided to stop hating mdh.

I am clear in my mind that I have never nor will I ever need a medium to communicate to swami.

Swami also said heart to heart communication is the only way with god.

I request that I am no longer tagged on the subject and if I am I'll jus remove the tag.

All the best to all the people working hard trying to put an end to all this.

You will definitely succeed.

I have done all that I can and sometimes sacrificed my own name to try and stand tall And be bold in my fight.

My accident and slip up Causing embarrassment to Rathnaka was a sign from swami that enough is enough now.

And I have be intelligent and act on it quick or else the next slip could be far worse.

This also gave me an insight as to who would stand by me in my hour of need.

Make no mistakes I have jumped in when I have seen people get attacked from our side.

How many times I have jumped into a fire without caring a dam about the repercussions.

I feel I have done more then my fair share And I know you all would agree with that.

The rest should now be left to swami to handle.

He will handle it.

Again wish to say big sorry to Rathnaka for embarrassment caused and big thank you to both ravi's and Shaun brown whom I grew up with.

I'm requesting everyone to please share this post to everyone.

Jai Sai Ram

Truth always prevails so don't worry
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My comment exchange with Clive on the above post is given below.

Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Thanks for the kind words, Clive Raj Valydon. All the best!
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Also, allowed your post to be put up on my Timeline.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Thank you sir
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Regarding my account being hacked.
That had nothing to do with anyone but me.
No one told me to say that basically it was my own stupidity
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27) Facebook Fake ID Bully and Conspirator Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident wrote some stupid short comment ..., https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860777300805505 dated February 10th 2017

Facebook Fake ID Bully and Conspirator Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident wrote some stupid short comment on my recent post, How to respond to and reverse Facebook cyberstalking followed by non-violent bullying using false allegations (conspiracies), https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860159634200605.
But his comment cannot be viewed as criminal defamation. I decided to delete his comment and block him on Facebook, and have done so.
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28) Mr. V.R. Ganti's mail to me, "Abstain from commenting about me"; My mail response to him, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860844417465460 dated February 10th 2017

Mr. V.R. Ganti's mail to me, "Abstain from commenting about me"; My mail response to him

Given below is an email exchange today between Mr. V.R. Ganti and me.

from: VR GANTI <ganti@jeevosolutions.com>
to: "Ravi S. Iyer" <--snip-->
date: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:39 PM
subject: Abstain from commenting about me

Shri Ravi Iyer Garu,

I just now came to know that you posted a comment which says that I am closely associated with Arun Srinivas.  See the comment.

[See attached pic below]



The fact is that the highest amount of collaboration I had was with yourself ser.  We had chatted for number of times on each day and each time hour quite some time (may be an hour or close to an hour).  The discussions/chats were wide range of topics.  I have taken back up of all those chats.  In fact I do take chats with various people since I am decided to venture into something very senious.    I have never spoken bad or for that matter anything with any person till date, because I made a promise to you that I will never divulge the discussions we had.

Yes, directly or indirectly I am making reference to you sometimes and I am saying that you are a good man.  Pl note.  I still maintain that you are a good man and surely I am accumulating good in my KARMIC Account.

Sir, I suggest you abstain from talking about me anywhere and with anybody.  It is not good and not because it affects me.  Nothing will affect me and you surely know my objective which is TRUTH & DHARMA.  Please note that all the guys with whom you are working will drop you like hot potato one day or other.

Thanks and Regards

VR Ganti
Cell No. Singapore: +65-90053742
Email: ganti@jeevosolutions.com
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from: Ravi S. Iyer <--snip-->
to: VR GANTI <ganti@jeevosolutions.com>
date: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:46 PM
subject: Re: Abstain from commenting about me

Sairam Ganti sir,

PLEASE NOTE THAT I WILL BE SHORTLY PUTTING THIS EXCHANGE UP ON FACEBOOK (and blog). Please be aware that from now on, I may publicly share any communication from you to me.

I am sorry if my comment hurt you. But I think what I have said is not untruthful.

But I realize that I made a mistake by writing critically about you without giving you a chance to read and respond to that. That was not fair on my part. I apologize for that mistake, Ganti sir.

I have now unblocked you on Facebook. I will tag you on the three or so posts that I have written critically of you (including a post where I have praised your previous efforts). I will tag you step by step so that you are not overwhelmed.

You may please feel free to share your comments on what I have written publicly. I will surely read and respond to your comments, sir.

Regarding our close collaboration in the past which you say has been the highest amount of collaboration you had with anybody, I have not hidden the fact that I was collaborating with you in the past when we were working together to expose Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF and MISDEEDS like Sai university HIJACK by Narasimhamurthy and Sashidhara Prasad. I have also praised you publicly, including in a recent post, for that GREAT SERVICE you have done to post Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement.

But I have never ever collaborated with any effort of yours to target any Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust trustee or Prasanthi Nilayam. I have always endeavoured both in my public and private exchanges with you, to protect Bhagavan's godly gift (Devudu icchina varamu) to humanity of Prasanthi Nilayam and Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT), requiring me, many times, to strenuously argue against your harsh criticisms of SSSCT, both privately and publicly.

Regarding the backup of wide ranging chats that we had, which you say you have: Well, frankly, I don't have these backups, except perhaps for a few chats here and there. Many times, I deleted our chat conversation on sensitive topics. We both were initially engaged in a task of unraveling what was happening in Prasanthi Nilayam and this Muddenahalli group matter in 2015 and to a lesser extent in 2016, and sharing that with the Sathya Sai fraternity at large, in a spirit of Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara (Speak the truth; Follow Dharma) which is the ancient Sanathana Dharma teaching that our beloved Lord, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba exhorted us to follow. So I shared a lot of matters which I heard from various sources, with you. The intent was to figure out the maddeningly confusing jigsaw puzzle that Sathya Sai movement found itself in after Madhusudan Rao Naidu burst on the scene as the so called communicator of a so called subtle body based in Muddenahalli. You had promised that such conversations would be kept secret. And as the objective was to help post Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement understand and then overcome the SERIOUS DIVISIVE CHALLENGE that Muddenahalli group was posing it, I shared a lot of what I had heard from various sources, with you.

Now, in your message, I see a hint of BLACKMAIL. I hope you don't feel hurt by me saying so, sir. But that's how it appears to me. The message that I read from you, Ganti sir, to me is: I have all the chats backup. And so, "abstain from talking about me anywhere and with anybody". This is followed by the unsaid words, OR ELSE, I will publicly put up the chats where you shared sensitive information and which will put you in trouble.

Well, well, well! Am I under Facebook attack or what! First Facebook fake ID bully Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident did a Facebook cyberstalking, fabrication and conspiracy hit job against me and then tried to BLACKMAIL me. That bully simply wanted to shut me up from criticizing Muddenahalli group.

And now you Ganti sir seem to be giving me a similar BLACKMAIL threat!!! You want me to stop criticizing you OR ELSE!

Well, Ganti sir, I am not scared of such BLACKMAIL and will not give in to such BLACKMAIL. You may do what you want. I am prepared to face the consequences. I had decided to block you and simply ignore you, sir. Now I will unblock you and tag you on posts where I have criticized you. Once we finish any comment conversation there, I think I will block you again. If I criticize you again, Ganti sir, I will unblock you and tag you to let you know directly about the criticism and give you a chance to respond.

--snip--

What is the most that will happen if you share all our chats? I will go through a John Podesta (Hillary Clinton USA presidential campaign chair) gmails exposure like experience, within our small Sathya Sai social media and associated community. I am prepared to face that.

I am not afraid of you, Ganti sir. If you want to fight me, I am ready to fight you back.

Despite all the criticism that I have made publicly of some posts and stands of yours (e.g. refusal to delete nasty and malicious comment related to an SSSCT trustee), I still respect you for the previous work you did to expose Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF and Sai university HIJACK by Narasimhamurthy and Sashidhara  Prasad.

But, Ganti sir, don't try any BLACKMAIL stunts with me, sir. I DON'T SUCCUMB TO BLACKMAIL. Jai Sairam!

Regards

Ravi S. Iyer
Blogger/Facebook writer on spirituality & religion and retired software consultant, Puttaparthi, India

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* God & science conversation and a little more: iami1.wordpress.com/god-and-science-toc

Software Websites/Blogs
* Indian CS & IT Academic Reform Activism: eklavyasai.blogspot.in/p/table-of-contents.html
* Course material related to computer programming (software lab.) courses: raviiyerteaches.wordpress.com

Misc. Topics Blogs
* ravisiyermisc.blogspot.in/
* ravisiyer.wordpress.com/category/misc/

e-mail:   --snip--
Twitter:  twitter.com/RaviSaiIyer
Google+:  google.com/+RaviSIyerSai
Facebook: facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7

Service to Society is Service to God
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29) Mr. V.R. Ganti response to me and my response back to him, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860983460784889, dated Feb. 10th 2017

Mr. V.R. Ganti response to me and my response back to him

This post is a follow up to my earlier post today, Mr. V.R. Ganti's mail to me, "Abstain from commenting about me"; My mail response to him, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860844417465460.

from: VR GANTI <ganti@jeevosolutions.com>
to: "Ravi S. Iyer" <--snip-->
date: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 7:54 PM
subject: RE: Abstain from commenting about me

Too long a mail.  I read through not in detail though.  Don’t every think I will black mail anyone.

I have said I take copies of all the chats.

I am not keen to post any comments whatsoever on your posts.

I am too busy.

Thanks and Regards

VR Ganti
Cell No. Singapore: +65-90053742
Email: ganti@jeevosolutions.com
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from: Ravi S. Iyer <--snip-->
to: VR GANTI <ganti@jeevosolutions.com>
date: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:53 PM
subject: Re: Abstain from commenting about me

Sairam Ganti sir,

Noted your response.

I am glad to note that you have said you will not blackmail me.

Also noted that you are "not keen to post any comments whatsoever" on my posts.

So sir, I will then block you again after two days.

I don't think I will have any reason to comment critically about you in future. However, if I do so, sir, I will unblock you and tag you to inform you directly about me having done so.

Thanks for the good times that we had in the past when we co-operated on exposing Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF and some of their MISDEEDS.

I am sad that things have come to such a pass now between us. But such is life!

I pray to Bhagavan to show you the right path forward.

Jai Sairam!

Regards

Ravi
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30) Blocked Mr. V.R. Ganti again,
https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1861893877360514 dated 12-Feb-2017

I had unblocked Mr. Ganti around two days ago to transparently interact with him on his suggestion to me over email to abstain from commenting about him (see my post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1860844417465460, dated Feb. 10th 2017 for details).
He then interacted me with over email on Feb. 10th itself saying to me, "I am not keen to post any comments whatsoever on your posts."

I had to wait two days to block Mr. Ganti again (as Facebook seems to stop blocking requests for unblocked persons for 48 hours from time of unblocking).

Now that two day period is over and so I was able to block Mr. V.R. Ganti again. As I have blocked him, I don't think I will have any need to criticize him on social media, now or in future.

I wish Mr. V.R. Ganti well and pray to Bhagavan to show him the right Sathya & Dharma way forward.

Thanks & Jai Sairam!
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Some comments on above post are given below:

Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Ap Ramesh sir, Hope the above action of mine is in line with your well intentioned advice to me in the past to not interact with Mr. Ganti.
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Ap Ramesh wrote:
iyer sir, let us go away from persons who have fallen from the grace of God. sir, i firmly believe that any person with some Grace on him, will not be /cannot be so negative and sadistic. here is a person who is behaving completely against the teachings of Swami. It is also an unacceptable human behaviour. if this person has a responsible son or a daughter, they would have stopped him. he is a liar. he is a manipulator. he is a paid agent of MGH. he allows his face less accomplices to post pro MDH comments on his wall. not even once ,he has objected to it. so in nut shell his FB page/wall are filled only with anti SSSCT/RJR bizarre --snip-- and MDH glorifying --snip--. so why should we Sai devotees need to see that?? will Swami be happy with us?? Sir, you have taken the right decision. please find a way to block his mails also. Mai sai bless us all.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Sairam Ap Ramesh sir. Thank you for your valuable views. I am responding to your inner level comment at the outer level for better visibility.

As I have the norm now that if I criticize Mr. Ganti I have to unblock him and tag him so that he can directly see my criticism and respond to it (perhaps on his Facebook posts as he may not want to respond on my Facebook posts), I do not want to comment on some of your criticisms of Mr. Ganti in your previous (inner-level) comment.

But I would like to say that I do not recall even one instance where Mr. Ganti has accepted Muddenahalli group Madhusudan Rao Naidu's claim of being a so called communicator of so called subtle body of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. From my close interactions with him in the past, I know that he made immense efforts along with a leader of Sathya Sai fraternity to force Madhusudan Rao Naidu to stop his so called communicator act, using Indian legal processes, complaints to top Indian government officials etc. Mr. Ganti is DEAD AGAINST that claim of Madhusudan Rao Naidu.

So I don't think that Mr. Ganti is a paid agent of Muddenahalli group.

But it is true that Mr. Ganti does not moderate comments of others on his Facebook posts, as his view is that he is not responsible for others' comments even if they are made on his Facebook posts. That allows MDH Asathya-Adharma (untruthful and unethical) crooks and Facebook fake ID bullies and conspirators like Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident to write all sorts of nonsense targeting SSSCT, including nasty personal comments against individual SSSCT trustees. Such persons also target those who have written defending SSSCT (like you sir, me and others) making all sorts of nasty and wild allegations about these persons without any evidence to back them, as comments on Mr. Ganti's Facebook posts.

Regarding effort of Mr. Ganti's close relatives (son/daughter/wife) to stop or tone down his writings against SSSCT: As I was in very close Facebook chat/private message contact with Mr. Ganti in the past, I know that when Mr. Ganti was in the USA (Atlanta) and there was a threat of USA police complaint against him, at least some of his close relative(s) have tried to stop him or tone him down like my elder sister stepped in and forced me to tone down my posts exposing MDH group. Mr. Ganti flatly refused his close relatives' entreaties and even pressure and did not back down, and had even said that he was willing to leave their USA home, and go back to Singapore. So I don't think we should lay any blame on Mr. Ganti's close relatives (like wife, son, daughter-in-law, daughter, son-in-law) for not trying to rein in Mr. Ganti's posts & comments criticizing SSSCT and other official Sai orgn., both Indian and international, office bearers. They tried but Mr. Ganti rebuffed such efforts of theirs.

When I accepted the request and emotional pressure that my elder sister put on me to make me tone down my posts & comments exposing MDH group, Mr. Ganti told me, if I recall correctly, that I should not have done so and reminded me of what he had done when he refused entreaties and pressure from his close relative(s). I felt that Mr. Ganti was trying to say that I was weak in this matter whereas he was strong and fearless and willing to give up anything and anybody, including his family and his life, in his so called Sathya and Dharma quest. In other words, he was viewing himself as superior to me, in this matter.

I told Mr. Ganti that I was bound by my love and respect towards my elder sister for all that she had done for me and so I could not flatly ignore her requests and emotional demands. Please note that I was able to explain to my elder sister then that I had to do my duty towards Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba and towards the Sai fraternity from whom I had gained a lot, by resisting efforts of Muddenahalli group to misguide thousands of Sathya Sai devotees worldwide with their false claim of so called communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu. And so she did not ask me to stop exposing Muddenahalli group false claims and misdeeds but only to tone down such writings of mine. I also had to promise her that I would not get involved in police and legal matters against MDH group (unless she provided explicit permission to me to do so). I felt that I did the right thing and did not bother about Mr. Ganti implying that I was being weak by giving in to my elder sister's requests & emotional demands on this matter.

Regarding Mr. Ganti's mails, I have not been receiving his regular mails for many months now. I had told Mr. Ganti many months ago that I want to limit our interactions to PUBLIC Facebook interactions. So, for many months now, I have had very, very limited individual mails from him to me, and similarly very, very limited Facebook private chat conversations with him. An example of an exceptional case where I have had individual Facebook chat conversation (or individual email) with him in this period, is my FAILED effort to get him to delete the offensive comment & misrepresented and doctored screenshot, and which chat conversation I put up publicly on Facebook to share with readers how much effort I made to get that offensive comment & misrepresented and doctored screenshot removed from Mr. Ganti's post.

I think Mr. Ganti will not send any individual mails to me from now on as I have publicly severed my social media writer relations with him.

Finally, I echo your ending statement, Ap Ramesh sir, May Sai bless us all. Jai Sairam!
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I also felt it appropriate to share with readers that Mr. Ganti had once told me, on private Facebook chat, perhaps in 2015, that he was going to go on a fast undo death protest against Muddenahalli group. I don't recall where he was planning to do it - in Singapore or in India. Note that Muddenahalli group had made great inroads into official Sai organization in Singapore then with the leaders of the Katong, Singapore center that Mr. Ganti was associated with, being associated with Muddenahalli group. Mr. Ganti gave me the impression that he was in a minority in refusing to accept Madhusudan Rao Naidu claim, in his Katong Sai centre. I think this disturbed him enormously. When he escalated/discussed these matters to higher level Sai orgn. leaders in Singapore and in the Sai International orgn. zone that Singapore falls in, he felt that their responses to combat Muddenahalli group SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT to Sathya Sai orgn. in Singapore and associated International zone, were very inadequate. That created a desperate kind of frustration in him leading to him telling me that he is going to go on this fast unto death to force government authorities and thereby Sai orgn. authorities to step in, and stop Muddenahalli group so called communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu, Narasimhamurthy and their group from doing their activities which were a SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT to Sathya Sai orgn in Singapore and associated international zone, and in India.

I got very worried when he conveyed that to me on chat. I asked him whether he had informed his wife about it. He told me, no. I panicked. Mr. Ganti also has some health issues which he had conveyed to me earlier. I INSISTED that he inform his wife and family about this, and TAKE THEIR PERMISSION before he gets into this MAD fast unto death plan of his. I freaked out on him then in our private Facebook chat conversation. Perhaps that helped in him stepping back from taking such extreme steps.

I shared this very private matter publicly on Facebook now so that my readers know that Mr. Ganti has gone to tremendous lengths to combat Muddenahalli group and its SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT to Sai orgn. in India and internationally. Therefore the possibility of him being a paid agent of Muddenahalli group is something that I will not accept (UNLESS there is really strong evidence to back that allegation).

I think both Mr. Ganti and certainly I (as I know about my case for sure) have done our work in this matter without any payments from anybody and instead spent our own time & money, prompted by our desire to help post-Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement overcome the great challenges it faced after Bhagavan's Mahasamadhi, including the biggest challenge of SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT from Muddenahalli group. However, Mr. Ganti's views and approach with respect to SSSCT is something that I disagree with profoundly, and which disagreement I have publicly expressed on Facebook and blog.
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31) Some psychiatric opinion I saw which seems to be appropriate for Facebook fake Id bully, Venkatesh Babu, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1862741790609056 dated Feb. 14th 2017

I found some words which I felt are applicable to Asathya-Adharma (untruthful and unethical) crook, Facebook fake Id bully and conspirator, Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident. I have modified those words to apply them to Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, as given below.

Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident's Facebook comments and actions demonstrate an inability to tolerate views different from his own, leading to rage reactions. His words and behavior suggest a profound inability to empathize. Individuals with these traits distort reality to suit their psychological state, attacking facts and those who convey them.
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[Original comments courtesy: a leading USA newspaper.]
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Ravi: I think well wishers of Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident should seriously consider some psychiatric evaluation and help for him.

[I thank the unnamed leading USA newspaper and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me using the above mentioned extract from their website on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
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Given below are some comments from the above Facebook post:

--Name-snipped-- posted an image with following text in it:
Do not correct a fool, or he will hate you. Correct a wise man and he will appreciate you.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
--Name-snipped--, Given all that Venkatesh Babu has done against me, I could not resist this one :-).
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--Name-snipped-- wrote:
He / She Or IT .. I really do not know :) Has Used Filthy Language Against All Of Us
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Yes, he has targeted all of us, very viciously. Though he seemed to have enjoyed conspiring against me with his misrepresented and doctored screenshot.
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32) Don't argue with idiots, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1866140546935847, dated 21-Feb-2017

Don't argue with idiots

I see the shared message below as a message on how to deal with Muddenahalli group Facebook fake ID trolls like Asathya-Adharma crook, Facebook coward, bully and conspirator Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, for stuff like name-calling and disgusting gutter-level garbage language that they may use against truth-tellers.

But if the Asathya-Adharma crook-idiots create problems in one's real life then one should use the law enforcement services of one's country as well as other legal means like complaining to the employer of the Asathya-Adharma-crook-idiot, to deliver some real life justice to them, even if they reside in a foreign country.

[Shared FB post of Buddhist Humor, https://www.facebook.com/BuddhistHumor/photos/a.352940524786628.81480.350763405004340/1288603614553643/?type=3, has a pic and a message which has been given below as text:]

"Master, what is the secret to happiness"
"Not to argue with idiots"
"Master, I completely disagree that this is the secret"
"Yes, you are right..."
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33) Need suggestions on whether I should respond to Mr. Ganti's recent email to me, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1887838384766063, dated April 5th 2017 at 3:47 PM [Note that I have snipped some portions of the Facebook post content, in what I have given below.]

I have not received any emails from Mr. Ganti for quite some time now, till today's mail. Here's Mr. Ganti's email to me today (slightly edited):

The debate – some sort of debate – between Gautham Narendra of Mhalli Group and Chiran Basnet of Parthi Group is interesting.  --snip--.  Parthi Alumni has taken too much time to allow Mhalli to grow like a monster and now I think Mhalli is just beyond anybody to --snip--.

I thought I should let you know my personal views to you as I continue to respect you Sir.

Thanks and Regards

VR Ganti
--- end main part of Mr. Ganti's email ---

Ravi: I had clearly written Mr. Ganti in the past that I may share any email that he sends me, publicly. So I think I am being fair and ethical in publicly sharing this mail of Mr. Ganti even though he has said that these are his personal views.

I would like suggestions on whether I should:

a) Not respond to the mail

 OR

b) Ask Mr. Ganti again to delete the offensive comment from his post which led me to block him on Facebook and stop interactions with him. My view is that if he deletes it and agrees to a social media policy of deleting comments on his public posts from others (like Facebook fake Id coward, bully and conspirator, Venkatesh Babu) which are of very personal nature about others, then I could unblock him on Facebook.

I would like to follow the advice of those who publicly stuck their neck out and supported me on social media or over private messages, when Venkatesh Babu maliciously conspired and attacked me. Those persons are: Ap Ramesh, Shubha Ramesh Kumar, Ravi Raj Salyankar, Terry Reis Kennedy and Clive Raj Valydon. I request their kind and valuable advice on the matter. Jai Sairam!
--- end contents of FB post ---

Given below are some of my comments from the above FB post. Those who want to see the whole comment exchange including others' comments may please visit the above mentioned Facebook post.

Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon, Shubha Ramesh Kumar, Ravi Raj Salyankar - Have decided to follow your advice and take option a) Not respond to the mail. Thanks again.

Note that I have not had any communications from/with Mr. Ganti since Feb. 10th 2017 (as best as I can recall and as captured in my blog post: [this blog post] http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2017/02/misrepresentation-and-fabrication-by.html), till this recent email from him.

For the record, I confirmed that as of less than an hour ago (now my PC clock shows 11:14 AM IST, 6-Apr-2017), the offensive comment of Facebook fake Id coward, bully and conspirator Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident HAS NOT BEEN REMOVED from Mr. Ganti's Facebook post.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Hey Clive Raj Valydon, I am not Mark Zuckerberg to "get it removed"! What I tried very, very hard to do, at that time, was convince Mr. Ganti to remove it but failed as Mr. Ganti did not budge. Therefore I retaliated by blocking him on Facebook and stopping my communications with him. That's all I could do.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Well, if Shubha Ramesh Kumar and/or Ravi Raj Salyankar tell me to consider option b), it will be a majority for option b) and I would be willing to consider it. But they, like you, initially preferred option a).
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Well, it makes me/us look like guys pleading with Ganti who is having the upper hand and refusing to do what any reasonable person should have done at my first request itself (I think this is what Shubha Ramesh Kumar was saying).
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I think Mr. Ganti tends to take offense quickly. I think he refused to delete the Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident Facebook Fake Id Bully offensive comment earlier on, as he wanted to use it to hit back at people who had hit him hard in the past. It is a rather nasty emotional situation.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Ravi Raj Salyankar, I was referring to events of a year or two ago where Clive had been strongly critical of Ganti (at that time Ganti had not blocked Clive) as Ganti was attacking SSSCT. Same is the case with the other person (I don't want to name that person).
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
--Name-snipped--, Mr. Ganti excels at being an agent provocateur, provoking people to react to challenging and sometimes insulting statements. I have been a target of his provocations many, many times, especially when I have supported SSSCT and some of its trustees against the harsh criticism leveled by Mr. Ganti against them. I had to fight off those provocations by making social media posts rebutting his criticism, as well as by making comments on his posts then. As, at least at that time, he had a large readership (and was also mailing out his posts to large number of people), I considered it important to rebut him.

I think it is good you have rebutted him here. You have been one of the most, if not the most, active alumni fighting Muddenahalli group FALSE BELIEF, and have stuck your neck out in this fight. I think your contributions in this regard are undeniable by any unbiased observer.

However, Mr. Ganti does seem to hold a view that his own contribution in combating this Muddenahalli group matter is the greatest and, if I recall correctly, has publicly claimed that he has "single-handedly" combated Muddenahalli group. That's his style and his belief.

My intent of sharing this mail frankly was to be transparent with the Sathya Sai fraternity on social media about Mr. Ganti's correspondence with me. The reference to you, --name-snipped--, is incidental, from my perspective.

I don't want any serious person on social media and elsewhere to have any doubts that I have completely cut off my communications with Mr. Ganti after his refusal to delete the very personal and very offensive comment about a senior office-bearer, put up by Facebook Fake Id coward, bully and conspirator, Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident on Mr. Ganti's post. That is why I shared almost the entire contents of Mr. Ganti's mail. I mean, I did it in the interests of transparency.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Thank you Ap Ramesh sir, for your valuable advice. I had already decided to ignore/not respond. Thanks.
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34) Sathyameva Jayate! Offensive & disgusting comment of Facebook Fake Id bully & conspirator Venkatesh Babu has been deleted from Mr. Ganti's post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1891840024365899, dated April 12th 2017 at 10:09 AM.

Yesterday (11th Apr. 2017), I received a regular mailer from Mr. Ganti with subject, "IS SINGAPORE's LARGEST SAI CENTRE (AT LEAST ONCE UPON A TIME) GETTING HIJACKED BY MHALLI GANG?". I have been off his mailing list for many months now (different from a few individual mails he has sent me) and so I was quite surprised to see it. I did not react/respond to it.

But I checked whether the Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident offensive and disgusting comment dated 27th January 2017, 14:44, which included a misrepresented and fabricated screenshot from one of my posts, viciously maligning a senior office bearer of the Prasanthi Nilayam ashram system, was still shown. To MY PLEASANT SURPRISE, I found that it was not shown. But other comments of Venkatesh Babu are shown. So somebody (either Mr. Ganti or Venkatesh Babu or somebody else like a Facebook administrator) has deleted the offensive comment (and associated misrepresented and fabricated screenshot)!

I am happy that my immense efforts from January 28th 2017 to combat the vicious Shakuni poison work of Madhu Baba (Madhusudan Naidu) supporter, Facebook Fake Id coward, bully and conspirator, Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident, against me, has ultimately borne fruit now, sometime around April 11th 2017. These efforts are documented in these two blog posts of mine:

* Misrepresentation and fabrication by Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu against me; Beware of Arun Srinivas, alumnus of Muddenahalli school - Part 1, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2017/02/my-facebook-posts-related-to.html

* Misrepresentation and fabrication by Parthi Resident/Venkatesh Babu against me; Beware of Arun Srinivas, alumnus of Muddenahalli school - Part 2, http://ravisiyer.blogspot.in/2017/02/misrepresentation-and-fabrication-by.html

I thank those who stuck their neck out and supported me PUBLICLY on social media OR sent private messages of support, when Venkatesh Babu maliciously conspired and attacked me. In particular, I would like to PUBLICLY thank Ap Ramesh, Shubha Ramesh Kumar, Ravi Raj Salyankar, Terry Reis Kennedy and Clive Raj Valydon.

The lesson that this experience has given me is that on Sathya Sai devotee social media forums like Facebook pages/walls of notable social media writers on Sathya Sai matters, those who courageously and relentlessly confront serious Asathya (untruth) & Adharma (unethical/immoral behaviour) attacks on them like malicious conspiracies, with Sathya (truth) & Dharma (ethical/moral behaviour), eventually win! Sathyameva Jayate! [Truth alone is victorious!] [Minor name-calling Asathya & Adharma attacks on social media are like street dogs barking which can simply be ignored.]

I am very grateful to my beloved and revered Gurudev, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, to have drummed into my head, again and again, through his discourses, many of which I have had the privilege and great good fortune to have heard live in his physical divine presence, his instructions & teachings to his devotees (or non-devotee listeners/readers, for that matter) to say the truth and lead a righteous/ethical life (Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara). I must also say here that I try hard to follow Sathyam Vada Dharmam Chara teaching of his (which is the Sanathana Dharma and ancient Hindu teaching) but do slip up at times, due to the many human flaws that I have.
--- end contents of FB post ---

Given below are most of the comments from the above FB post.
[Note that, at times multiple comments have been combined into one comment below.]

Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Oh
Never forget how ganti made you beg to take it off.
He tried to teach us a lesson
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon And you should never forget that it was your immature comment related to senior office bearer, that put me into hot water, resulting in me having to demand/plead with not only Mr. Ganti but also Facebook fake Id coward, bully and conspirator, Venkatesh Babu to take it off!

And Oh! I recall that I demanded Mr. Ganti to take it off in a public FB comment on that post of his which can still be seen, I did not beg. But I did request (NOT BEG) - I used the word please, if I recall correctly - Venkatesh Babu in a direct public message exchange session I had with him to remove it. He tried to use it as a blackmail tool to get me to remove comments that he had found offensive. I refused to succumb to his blackmail.
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Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
Ravi S. Iyer This is such terrific and uplifting news. It shows how sometimes w really do need the support of our friends and well wishers. You have always taken a firm stand against fraudulent and Adharmic action. This type of speaking the truth from the heart upsets people who do not want to question the status quo, let alone try to change it. Perhaps that person, whoever he is, wishes he had the courage to be himself as you are. Why hide behind a false identity? Let people love us or hate us....but let their feelings be expressed in their own names. Honesty remains the best policy.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Thanks a ton Terry Reis Kennedy for your supportive comment.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Sorry my mistake of wording
Not beg but demanded and yes it was down to my Immaturity that lead to that comment being put up.
Again my sorries for that.
Hopefully we can all move on from this now.
But ganti could have shown a more gentlemen approach to you
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
Hey Clive Raj Valydon, so nice of you to make the above comment. You are a good guy with a good heart even if you freak out emotionally when you are angry. Yes, we should all be able to move on now. About Mr. Ganti part, I don't want to comment as I have told him that if I criticize him I will tag him and let him know about it. I prefer not to have any interactions with Mr. Ganti.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
It's fair to say that the comment stayed up due to ganti wanting to punish me and I suppose you was used as scapegoat and it was your name that he was he was trying to damage
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon Yes, he seems to have used it against us to try to teach us a lesson!!!
But eventually he failed.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
We all freak out emotionally sir
Jus not in public.
I may be the only one who feels comfortable enough to do so in public
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon, Well, language usage in UK and USA and even in some communities in cities like Mumbai in India (where I was born & brought up) allows sexual stuff to be used even in casual conversation. But it is very different in Sai circles where those words are a strict no-no, even in verbal conversation let alone public written conversation like Facebook public comments.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
I agree
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Also remember I freeked out due to a few people trying to bully u that day.
I jumped in as I felt they were getting the upper hand in an argument.
Most people would have stayed quiet
My Immaturity led to me jumping in
I'm sorry about that
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Well, the comment you made was not related to any issue I was having with others. It came from out of the blue.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
True
I agree with that
Bottom line I respect you sir and I'm truly sorry for any damage done
Jai Sai ram [Smiley-icon]
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon, I appreciated then and still appreciate your public social media support for me when I was attacked on social media. That's why I did not delete the comment right away but checked whether it was OK with you. You did not want it to be deleted. But by the time I put my foot down and deleted it (3 minutes) those guys had taken a screenshot!!!!
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Yes true
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Clive Raj Valydon, I deeply appreciate your devotion to Bhagavan and your social media work in countering the FALSE BELIEF of Madhu Baba and his devotees. You are doing a great service to Sathya Sai fraternity. Most people prefer to watch but not get involved in the fray out of fear. You are fearless on social media. That's really great!
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
I jus want to say my sorries to all who got hurt.
It was down to me that comment went up but I feel if ganti had any sort of respect for you he would have deleted that comment.
That episode showed that ganti does not respect you and this is my opinion only.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Ganti let me hang out to dry! And his comments show that he was enjoying it! He said I had gone crazy!
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Exactly that must never be forgotten sir
My sorries to you again sir
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Hey Clive Raj Valydon, please don't keep saying sorry. I am embarrassed.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Ok ok lol
Done
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote (slightly edited):
I will not get in touch with (communicate with) Ganti again unless you guys give me the OK.
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Clive Raj Valydon wrote:
Good
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Ap Ramesh wrote:
iyer sir, very happy. Clyve, it is very nice of you to also say that you are sorry. all looks so beautiful and full of love. no slitting the throats like singapore guy. God bless.
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Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Thank you Ap Ramesh sir.
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A response (slightly edited) I gave over email to a correspondent on the above Facebook post contents:

It (my work related to this matter) was over a period of two and a half months (Jan end to just before mid April), and not continuous, but in fits & bursts. But it was dogged and hard work from me. I was not letting it go, despite most people advising me to let it go.

I did let it go for periods, but whenever the opportunity presented itself, I dug deeper instead of letting it go. That's what seems to have delivered the good results!
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Extracts from another email response from me:
What I have learned over the past two years or so that I have been active on Facebook, which is the main platform for Sathya Sai devotees on social media, is that social media mirrors real life human relationships and interactions with one additional scary feature of lack of accountability of fake Facebook users making perhaps good Dr. Jekyll figures into monstrous Mr. Hyde figures!

Another learning is that Facebook interactions on some matters in the Sathya Sai fraternity has a direct impact on one's real life! I am now a noted Facebook (and blog) writer on Sathya Sai matters in Puttaparthi, with many people SILENTLY reading what I have written, and only a few people having the courage to openly comment on controversial topics involving powerful people.
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However, today the Muddenahalli supporters in Puttaparthi are a small minority (they were perhaps a kind of big minority if not majority, from end 2011 to mid 2016 when some staff were removed from Puttaparthi ashram system for openly associating with Muddenahalli group!!!). I think my social media work exposing Muddenhalli group from March 2015 onwards did contribute in a not-insignificant way to reducing the big minority/majority of Muddenahalli supporters in Puttaparthi, to a small minority from mid 2016 onwards. Perhaps due to that, now I have the support of many people, including some powerful people, in Puttaparthi for my writings exposing FALSE BELIEF of Muddenahalli group.
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But my work exposing FALSE BELIEF of Muddenahalli group seems to be hurting them (Muddenahalli group) in terms of weaning away some followers and keeping away some recruits they are trying to attract, both from India and from other countries in the world, including the rich Western world countries (an important donor base for them). So they attacked me on social media with a nasty conspiracy! They tried to discredit me and silence me on social media through that attack! As simple as that!

It was my first experience of such vicious conspiracy against me which I had read and viewed about in relation to Indian and USA political leaders! Anyway, the saga seems to be finally over, with me having learned one heck of a lot about how to handle such vicious conspiracies against me on social media (which impact my real life in Puttaparthi, like this one had impacted for some time). Also I realized how I could prevent them in the first place by simply deleting any very sensitive stuff like sexual stuff comments related to top people of the ashram system without getting into any polite discussion about me planning to delete them.
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I think Venkatesh Babu eventually realized that if he pacified me by removing the comment, I might not pursue any future leads I might get to expose him. And so, I think, he removed the comment. Or Mr. Ganti may have removed the comment to try to have me communicate again with him. Ganti is trying quite a bit to get me to communicate with him.

So that's how this thing played out. I don't think I will expose Venkatesh Babu now even if I come to know in future who the real person is. My anger against him has cooled with the comment being removed.

If I am attacked again with another vicious conspiracy against me by Muddenahalli group, I think I will be able to handle it better emotionally as I have been through the fire of this first one. I hope it does not happen again. But it could. I am prepared and ready for it now.
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My (Ravi S. Iyer) response (edited) to private Facebook message:
I feel very happy that it (offensive comment made by Venkatesh Babu) finally got deleted from Mr. Ganti's post. I think that the Bhaskar Iyer of Melbourne, Australia, social media exposure (that he is collaborating with OR is Venkatesh Babu) resulted in Venkatesh Babu/Parthi Resident getting scared that he might get exposed next in social media (presuming he is not Bhaskar Iyer). Venkatesh Babu has gone quiet in terms of his criticism now. His Asathya & Adharma was defeated by Sathya & Dharma. So I am happy with the victory of Sathya & Dharma over Venkatesh Babu's Asathya & Adharma.
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[I thank Facebook user Buddhist Humor and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above short extracts from their Facebook page on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.] 

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