Monday, November 30, 2015

Mervyn Hughes is LYING about me; Request VijaySai B.S.​ and Sai Keshav​ to help establish the truth about me

Minor update on 9th Aug. 2019

[The contents below are from my Facebook post:]

I initially wanted to simply ignore Mervyn Hughes latest political style attack on me (see where this fake-Facebook-ID fellow, Mervyn Hughes, says about me, "... Ravi S. Iyer, a hilarious nerd who would try to shift blame of every ill (including global warming) to Shashidhar Prasad ex VC. These people were non-existent when Swami was present in His physical form and have no credibility to comment on any issue ..."

But today I saw bro. @Aravind Balasubramanya​'s post,, about a board at Muddenahalli with a twisted quote of Sathya Sai, "Till now Darshan was meditation, but now mediation will be Darshan." Note that the second m-word in the sentence is mediation and not meditation. Given the history of significant levels of variance between Sathya Sai teachings & instructions and what is spouted at Muddenahalli in the name of Sathya Sai, I will not dismiss the above as a typo, unless Muddenahalli fellows make the correction as soon as possible.

[Update: Bro. Sai Keshav wrote in a comment on this post (shown below), "I saw the pic posted by brother Aravind and I have already checked with the incharge at Muddenahalli, it is confirmed that it was indeed a typo and that board was already taken down for corrections ..." end-Update.]

The comment I made on this post is as follows:
This is like the twisted ideology that Animal Farm of George Orwell,, so brilliantly portrayed in relation to Stalinist Russia. But this stuff is being played out live and now in Muddenahalli with the twisted ideology being Muddenahalli teachings in the name of our beloved Sathya Sai!!! Daylight robbery of Sathya Sai teachings. ONLY a High Court or even Supreme Court level Public Interest Litigation may be able to STOP THIS twisted ideology from gaining more & more currency.
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In the light of such twisting of Sathya Sai teachings being propagated in India and the world by Muddenahalli group I changed my decision to ignore fake-ID Mervyn's above-mentioned political style attack on me. Perhaps some innocent (including new) Sathya Sai devotees may benefit by my debunking fake-ID Mervyn's allegations against me.

1) The hilarious nerd bit can be laughed off :-).

2) Blaming every ill (including global warming) on Shashidhara Prasad: I think Sai devotees who read this post should check whether I have blamed global warming on Shashidhara Prasad ex VC. They will find that there is no such mention on my Facebook posts or blog posts. In other words, Mervyn Hughes is a LIAR.

3) I have been included in the list of people who were non-existent when Swami was in physical form. Now I was in SSSIHL (Sai university), Prasanthi Nilayam campus, from Jan. 2003 to March 2012, and had the privilege of enjoying Swami darshan in Sai Kulwant Hall almost every day when he was in Prasanthi Nilayam during the period Oct. 2002 (when I shifted to Puttaparthi) to Mar. 2011. [I do not want to mention here my previous Sai orgn. involvement as that may be an unnecessary detail in this context.] But how do we confirm this and once again show that Mervyn Hughes is a LIAR? Let me request the help of two persons associated with Muddenahalli group and who were on stage in Muddenahalli 90th Birthday celebrations, who are my Facebook friends, VijaySai B.S. and Sai Keshav. Both these Sai brothers do not know me personally. But they can check with one or more of the following three persons who I think will be easily accessible to them in Muddenahalli to confirm my past association with SSSIHL, Prasanthi Nilayam campus, and thereby show that Mervyn Hughes is WRONG to state that I was non-existent when Swami was in physical form:

a) Prof. G.V. Prabahakar Rao (also referred to as Prabhakar Gouripeddi or by his initials, GVP) who is the author of this initial post in this Muddenahalli group blog,, dated July 20th 2014. Prof. G.V. Prabhakar Rao was my senior in the Dept. of Mathematics & Computer Science, SSSIHL, Prasanthi Nilayam campus. We used to sit in the same room (AI Lab.) He can confirm to VijaySai and Sai Keshav that I was teaching software lab. courses in DMACS and acting as tech. consultant to M.Tech. (CS) projects from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012.

b) Bro. Siddhant Chandrashekar was one of the male Master of Ceremonies (M.C.) in the 90th Birthday celebrations event at Muddenahalli. I have taught him software lab. courses when he was an M.Tech. (Computer Science) student in DMACS, SSSIHL, PN campus. So VijaySai and Sai Keshav can check with him too.

c) While I have not seen him on stage in Muddenahalli videos or any social media post related to Muddenahalli from him, Dr. Hanumantha Rao Naidu is the younger brother of Sri Madhusudhan Rao Naidu, and I believe he is associated with Muddenahalli group (doing some research stuff perhaps). I have taught Hanumantha Rao Naidu software lab. courses, and he was a junior teacher-colleague of mine later on. We have even jointly taught at least one software lab. course (C++ programming). VijayaSai and Sai Keshav can ask Hanumantha about me to confirm my statement above. If they don't know him they can ask Sri Madhusudhan Rao Naidu to put them in touch with his younger brother.

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Ravi: I can understand that my posts aimed at unearthing the truth related to the OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS made by Sri Madhusudhan Rao Naidu in relation to so called subtle body of Sri Sathya Sai Baba based in Muddenahalli, is causing disturbance to some in the Muddenahalli group and so I have become the target of political style (verbal) attacks. I was well aware of this possibility when I started BOLDLY and PUBLICLY QUESTIONING Madhusudhan Rao Naidu's claims on social media. That's part of the burden of helping innocent Sai devotees stay out of FALSE BELIEF traps. I see such PUBLIC QUESTIONING of OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS made in the name of Sri Sathya Sai Baba as my duty to both Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, my beloved Gurudev, and to the Sathya Sai fraternity, and so I am doing it. [And I don't get paid any money for it at all, nor do I expect any money for this service in future; but I do earn some enemies like Mervyn Hughes for free :-) .]

I earnestly pray to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Puttaparthi to protect me, and I am utterly confident that he will protect me, from any EVIL DESIGNS of people like Mervyn Hughes and co. who seem to want to MUZZLE people like me and STOP INCONVENIENT & UNCOMFORTABLE QUESTIONS about Sri Madhusudhan Rao Naidu's claims being aired publicly.

Sathyannaasthi Paro Dharmaha! [There is no Dharma higher than the TRUTH!] Jai Sairam!

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Given below are some comments from the Facebook post associated with the above contents:

Ravi S. Iyer responded to a comment from VijaySai B.S.:
Thanks bro. VijaySai B.S. Could you also help me with establishing the truth that I was with SSSIHL, PN campus from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012, and was "existent" when Swami was in physical form?

[Sharing small comment] VijaySai B.S. wrote:
Everyone knows that brother. All of us know that you were a faculty in SSSIHL, PN campus.

Ravi S. Iyer responded:
Thank you so much bro VijaySai B.S. as this will allow neutral and pro-MDH people to know that, on this point, Mervyn Hughes is wrong. BTW just for clarification to readers, my designation during this period on my Identity cards issued by Principal, SSSIHL, PN campus, had either Honorary Staff or Honorary Faculty or Visiting Faculty. I am not a regular academic as I am a former international software industry guy who offered free service to SSSIHL, PN campus from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012. I was not bothered really about the designation (except when that got used by the HOD against me) as I viewed the service as a great opportunity given by Bhagavan to me to serve Him.

A small extract from Sai Keshav's comment, "Sairam Sir Ravi S. Iyer,Firstly I would want to say that I completely trust and believe that you have been in swami's Proximity from a long time and I don't really need to ask anyone to confirm this for I know the kind of a wonderful soul you are from the time we are friends on Facebook."

Ravi S. Iyer responded:
Bro Sai Keshav: Thanks a ton for your quick response. Thanks also for your very kind words about me though I must say that I do have my flaws and try hard to correct them.

Noted that the board matter is a typo. Have updated my post above. Request you to post a pic of corrected board at which time I can make substantial changes to my post on this matter.

Noted your info. about Preetham and Gautham (informing you that they are) not operating fake-ID Mervyn Hughes, and that you are not doing it either. I trust you as I must say that you have been very honest and fair in all your interactions with me on Facebook and so I do have a high opinion of you as a good Sai university alumnus. I will pass on this info. and your "much love" :-), to both Terry & --name-snipped--.

[I should also say that I have a high opinion of bro. VijaySai B.S. as a former Sai university alumnus and faculty based on my many FB interactions with him, and that I trust him too.]

Sunday, November 29, 2015

Good exposure given to essence of Sathya Sai life & teachings on DD Bharati (Indian national TV channel) in Global Sai Symphony program

This program, GLOBAL SAI SYMPHONY - JAWAHARLAL NEHRU STADIUM, DELHI - 28 NOV 2015,, 2 hr. 39 min, broadcast on DD Bharati (one of India's govt. owned national TV channels which carries programs related to Indian culture) gave good exposure of essence of Swami's life & teachings and Sai orgn. activities by the speakers (& voice-over) as well as a short interview by a DD mediaperson of Delhi Sai orgn. head. That is really wonderful to note. Of course, the Global Sai symphony is also a great musical treat. It is largely instrumental but has some vocal songs too. In this post my focus is on the Swami message part and not the musical treat part.

At 9:23 you can see union ministers Shri Nitin Gadkari and Dr. Najma Heptulla along with Sai orgn. leaders & SSSCT trustees standing respectfully as the national anthem is being sung.

At 16:42 you can see the annual report of the Sai orgn. held up by the dignitaries.

The chief guests to the function are the two union ministers Shri Gadkari and Dr. Heptulla. I congratulate the Sai orgn. leaders in bringing Bhagavan's 90th birthday celebrations into the national spotlight in a sense via this function. I think this event will be a significant milestone in the post-Mahasamadhi phase of the Sathya Sai mission. I was so happy to hear the voice-over at the beginning say (in Hindi), "Param Pujaneeya Sri Sathya Sai ka divya alok pure vishwa ko roshan kar raha hain.", which translates in English to (my rough translation effort; so may not be perfect), "The holy light of the very revered Sri Sathya Sai is lighting up the whole world." Mind you, the voice over, in all probability, is that of an employee of the govt. owned DD Bharati channel. It is so nice to see & hear such acknowledgement of Swami's work from a govt. owned national TV channel. That voice-over sentence from the DD Bharati mediaperson (I presume), made my day, to be honest :-).

Congratulations to the Sai orgn. leaders for having organized this function and having DD Bharati cover it. It seems that Sri V. Srinivasan, trustee, Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT), and former All India President of Indian Sai orgn. was a key figure in organizing the event. He also spoke at the event. In my individual capacity of a Sai devotee I would like to congratulate Sri V. Srinivasan for playing a leadership role in organizing this event which brought the essence of Swami's life & teachings into the spotlight of a national DD TV channel. Of course, all the other Sai orgn. leaders and volunteers/workers involved in this effort too deserve appreciation. In my individual capacity again, I also thank the Hon'ble union ministers Shri Gadkari and Dr. Heptulla for extending their support & encouragement to the Sathya Sai mission.

In his speech, Shri Gadkari spoke about Indian spiritual & service culture, his own efforts in that regard and also about Sri Sathya Sai Baba's great contributions in this area. Dr. Heptulla is an old devotee of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, which was quite a surprise to me. In her talk she shared her experiences with Bhagavan. Dr. Heptulla stayed through the event and also thanked the performers after they finished their musical presentation.

Please note that some part of the video has some audio disturbance (part of Sri Gadkari's speech), and there seems to be some audio-video sync problem as well in most of the video.

Saturday, November 28, 2015

Has Muddenahalli group crossed RED LINE where tolerance is not right approach but active resistance is right approach?

I felt it appropriate to make a post of the following two comments (slightly edited) I made on this FB post:

Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Aravind Balasubramanya: I think you are pointing out the section where Madhusudhan Rao Naidu is blessing a Napkin/white cloth and, shortly afterwards, some other item by touching them. Yes, now it is clear that Madhusudhan has grown in stature in MDH following and is almost being viewed as Swami Himself! It was not difficult at all to predict that this would happen over time. Don't be surprised to see MDH followers take Padanamaskar of Madhusudhan Naidu in the not-so-distant future. He is now a bigshot spiritual guru using the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba!

Glad to see your continuing strong condemnation of the MOCKERY of our beloved Lord, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, being done by Sai university alumnus, Madhusudhan Rao Naidu, and FULLY ENDORSED by former warden of Sai university, Narasimhamurthy. I do hope that more Sai university alumni will join you and very few other Sai university alumni (Bro. Satyajit Salian & Sri Vedanarayanan notably) in such PUBLIC strong condemnation of Madhusudhan Naidu and Narsimhamurthy. It will be wonderful if the teachers of the Sai university too do the same (PUBLICLY, I repeat) as they are people on whom Swami had placed so much importance for his mission. That will send a clear message to the Sathya Sai fraternity at large about the stand of the majority of the Sai university faculty, staff and alumni on this matter.

The PUBLIC SILENCE of the many Sai university faculty & alumni has allowed this FALSE & RIDICULOUS BELIEF to grow. My considered view is that such PUBLIC SILENCE by the large majority of Sai university faculty & alumni is a FAILURE of their duty towards our beloved Lord, Kali Yuga Avatar, Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.


Sairam brother Aravind Balasubramanya: Well, I think Swami's teachings have to be interpreted appropriate to the situation. To be tolerant and not hurt others is a very important teaching of Bhagavan for all. However, it is my considered view and, to some extent, personal experience with Bhagavan, that there are red lines which when crossed need a different reaction aimed at stopping the Adharma. Let me explain with some details about my situation as it may be of some help to readers of the comment in their decision-making in this regard.

It was my destiny to get caught up in this matter right from Jul/Aug. 2011 when I had two one hour meetings with former VC Shashidhar Prasad in the VC's chambers over issues related to students & my involvement with Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini project which was not liked by the HOD. In the second meeting, the VC was very angry and shouted at me at the top of his voice, as soon as I got into his chambers. Now, I come from the international software industry where one sees a lot of cold fury and pink slips (lay-off notices) but not this kind of red hot fury :-). My first reaction was to cool things down. I turned down his offer to call the HOD to his chambers and I said something to the effect that I am learning to deal with sensitive zones. That cooled him down and he asked me, "Do you know how many sensitive zones I am dealing with?" (or words to that effect). I felt sympathy for him as we all knew what trauma and chaos Prasanthi Nilayam ashram system was going through then. I then became a tolerant and quiet mouse :-) and he did hammer me (got lectured on ego :-), if I recall correctly), but in a cooler tone, for the rest of the nearly one hour meeting. He let me know in very clear terms that he did not want another fight between me and the HOD of the dept. I was serving in then.

The VC's statement about the many sensitive zones that he was handling then was my first DIRECT EXPOSURE to serious issues then (July/Aug 2011) at the top of Prasanthi Nilayam ashram system. I guess it was my destiny, given that Bhagavan had placed me in a position where I was financially independent of SSSIHL and Prasanthi Nilayam ashram system, that slowly I started getting out of my Visiting Faculty role and started gathering info. about what's going on in the system with an objective to help in stabilization of the system in the immediate post-Mahasamadhi phase. I was least interested in playing such a role as it is quite unpleasant but felt that I owed it to Bhagavan and the Puttaparthi Sai fraternity to do my bit in this regard.

That exposed me to too much over time leading to a lot of emotional disturbances which also impacted my health. I saw that SSSIHL was slowly and steadily coming under Shashidhara Prasad DICTATORIAL rule with senior faculty either following his orders or quitting/being forced to resign. I had seen enough power struggles in the international software industry that I was involved with in my past career, to clearly understand that there was a massive power grab going on in SSSIHL with SSSCT not having much say. By that time I had heard from faculty who had interacted with Shashidhara Prasad that he was having belief in Narasimshamurthy's dream instructions. That led me to decide to part ways with SSSIHL in Mar. 2012 and kick up some fuss in end May 2012 to let Shashidhara Prasad know that Sathya, Dharma, Shanti & Prema are the key values that Bhagavan expected from his university. I mean, the DICTATOR VC had to be shown that there are people who have the GUTS to oppose him and will fight him if needed (under the law of the land). This Adharma had to be fought and not tolerated.

However, as I was not a regular faculty in SSSIHL I had my limitations in terms of continuing the fight with Shashidhara Prasad after May/June 2012. So I largely switched off from SSSIHL matters after June 2012.

The May 2014 video of so called subtle body visit to Kodaikanal was the next big milestone which forced me to engage in this matter again. I started getting some idea about what was going on here by talking to people in Puttaparthi. The next few months really shook me up. I could not believe how so many people were accepting the so called subtle body stuff and its so called communicator. When I saw that around July 2014, one of the former elder faculty of SSSIHL, PN campus, who I had interacted with quite closely when I was with SSSIHL, put out a new blog with a sort-of declaration of next phase of Sathya Sai mission, I was shocked out of my wits. I even thought that who knows maybe it is true if so many people including this former elder faculty of SSSIHL make such public statements about it.

As I investigated more through my contacts I came to know, from reliable sources, lots of rather unpleasant stuff that was being said by the so called communicator which was painting a black picture of Prasanthi Nilayam people. For example, one allegation from him was that Swami was "tortured" in PN!!! I BECAME FURIOUS. They were crossing the RED LINE for me. I mean, this was low level political style attacks on PN to wean people away from PN to their camp. Poaching became the order of the day for the MDH group. Some people that I knew in PN ashram felt that so called subtle Swami thing has some truth!!! I could not believe my ears. I mean, if one is associated with PN ashram system, earning salary from it and/or enjoying the benefits provided by it, is it not unethical to then support a competitor (in terms of funds & followers) to PN and which had been publicly opposed by PN leaders? Why could some people not see this simple but serious ethical issue? I mean, if they felt so much that Swami was there, why could they not leave PN setup and join MDH setup?

Slowly it became clear to me that PN ashram authorities lack of strict action against such persons was the reason why they were doing it. They wanted to enjoy material benefits of Parthi and go to MDH too. And, of course, MDH then had the blessing of SSSIHL as its VC, Shashidhara Prasad, was its staunch believer!!! What an extraordinarily weird state of affairs!

Years ago, I had heard about how (physical form) Swami would cut off top persons in the Sai orgn. if they started simultaneously attending/participating in functions associated with other gurus/Matas. It became clear to me that what was needed was for some people to start taking a tough stand against MDH exposing their FALSE CLAIMS. It was not going to be pleasant but sometimes fighting for DHARMA is not pleasant. I felt that Bhagavan had placed me in a position where I could write independently on such matters and that it was my duty to Bhagavan and the Sathya Sai fraternity to fight for DHARMA and expose ADHARMA in relation to MDH so called subtle body.

The year 2015 saw immense divisive impact due to MDH FALSE CLAIMS in the Sai fraternity in India and abroad. My blog and later Facebook posts have contributed to spreading the truth about these MDH FALSE CLAIMS among some interested readers on the Internet. I guess I have done my bit in this duty towards Bhagavan and the Sai fraternity in this regard.

The questions readers of this comment should ask themselves are: Do they think Muddenahali group has crossed the red line for them, where tolerance is not the right approach but instead Muddenahalli group ADHARMA using the HOLY NAME of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, has to be actively resisted (within the law of the land)? Would Bhagavan be happy with them if they continued to be passive onlookers to this MOCKERY of Bhagavan that is being done in Muddenahalli, and which is trapping and deluding so many brothers & sisters of the Sai fraternity? Jai Sairam!

My response to Mr. Ganti's post against SSSCT

Last updated on 11th July 2016

This response is to the FB post here:

To: Vr Ganti​

Sir, I have been very appreciative of your work in informing the Sathya Sai fraternity regarding the Muddenahalli FALSE BELIEF matter, and also your questioning the very slow and ineffective response of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT) and other leaders of the Sai orgn. in combating the SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT posed to the post-Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement by Muddenahalli group.

But this post of yours, in my considered opinion, is an UNFAIR ATTACK on all the trustees of SSSCT. As somebody who was in the Sai university at the time of the GREAT TRAUMA of the immediate post-Mahasamadhi HUGE POWER VACUUM AND SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP VACUUM in Puttaparthi/Prasanthi Nilayam, and continued to stay in Puttaparthi after I quit the Sai university in Mar. 2012, I know how challenging and dire the situation had become then for Prasanthi Nilayam ashram, the institutions managed by SSSCT and Puttaparthi town.

Sure, some mistakes may have been made by the trustees. But they are also human like the rest of us. Don't we commit mistakes? In the face of that huge challenge, many of the trustees could have taken the easy way out, resigned from SSSCT and those trustees living in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram could have left Prasanthi Nilayam/Puttaparthi forcing the govt. to run the affairs which may have taken Prasanthi Nilayam from the frying pan right into the fire. Don't forget the chaos that the Telangana separatist movement created in erstwhile unified Andhra Pradesh. Even today the residual state of A.P. faces a SERIOUS FINANCIAL CRISIS.

In my considered opinion, Shri K. Chakravarthi, Shri S.V. Giri and Prof. G. Venkataraman (Radio Sai head and former-VC of Sai university, but not a trustee), all of whom were based in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram and could have easily jumped ship after Mahasamadhi and escaped the trauma of managing the immediate post-Mahasamadhi chaos & confusion, have done a great service to not only Prasanthi Nilayam ashram but also the Sathya Sai fraternity at large as Prasanthi Nilayam is the HQ of the Sathya Sai movement, by helping to stabilize Prasanthi NIlayam system in the immediate post-Mahasamadhi phase.

While I do not know the exact role of the other trustees of SSSCT, I think they would surely have given important support to the above mentioned leaders. That does not mean they may not have had disagreements among themselves - that is common in any group of people. But without the MAGNETIC physical form of Bhagavan, Prasanthi Nilayam had become far more dependent on support from Sathya Sai fraternity outside Prasanthi Nilayam than earlier. So surely the support from Sathya Sai orgn., Indian and international, would have gone a long way in helping Prasanthi Nilayam ashram get stabilized then.

Regarding slow action of SSSCT in combating Muddenahalli group: Well, this was a betrayal from within. Shri Indulal Shah was a very revered leader who was publicly praised to the skies by Bhagavan in Sai Kulwant Hall. That Shri Indulal Shah turned against SSSCT of which he was the most revered trustee perhaps and joined hands with Narasimhamurthy, must have been paralysing betrayal to veteran leaders of Sai orgn. including those trustees of SSSCT who had decades of close proximity to Bhagavan. To make things really, really bad, the then vice-chancellor of SSSIHL (Sai university) Shashidhara Prasad started believing in Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions and started ignoring SSSCT view of rejecting these dream instructions.

I hope you don't feel bad, sir, but at that time who came to Prasanthi Nilayam to support SSSCT? Did you come sir and extend your support to Prasanthi Nilayam? You came into the picture only after Muddenahalli FALSE BELIEF started impacting your Singapore Sai center and Singapore orgn. sometime in second half of 2014. Now, in hindsight, one can say that SSSCT should have shared all these matters with the Sai fraternity (transparency) rather than trying to sweep it under the carpet and assume that by Bhagavan's grace the matter will get sorted out somehow. But those were very chaotic and traumatic days, sir. Only those who have been through that trauma know what it was then.

You write, "The MUDDY HILL mess has been created by the Trust , in particular because of the arrogance shown by Mr Srinivasan and Mr Chakravarthy. This alienated BNNM ( as it happened to several other prominent devotees also) resulting in BNNM leaving the fold and swearing to take revenge. Indulal Shah, for reasons best known to him, has swayed towards MUDDY HILL making thousands believe in and support MUDDY HILL."

Mr. Ganti, I don't know when exactly BNNM decided to "take revenge" as you wrote. But in July 2011 he declared that he is getting dream instructions from Swami!! Did he start getting these dream instructions after he got put off by the arrogance of Mr. Srinivasan and Mr. Chakravarthy? What was BNNM's demand which was met with "arrogance"? If BNNM's demand was that now SSSCT should start following the dream instructions that BNNM is getting (which is what the vice-chancellor of Sai university, Shashidhara Prasad had started believing in), then I am deeply grateful to Mr. Srinivasan and Mr. Chakravarthy for dismissing such a demand, however arrogant the dismissal may have been. I mean, they were following Swami's instructions in this regard, as given in so many public discourses of his, and as they may have received in person from Swami for similar cases in the past when Swami was in physical form.

The root cause of "MUDDY HILL mess" is not SSSCT. It is the megalomania of Narasimhamurthy who seems to be seeing himself as a Moses-like leader who should be given control of the post-Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai mission. And it is the willingness of some leaders and donors of the Sathya Sai fraternity to IGNORE Swami's public teachings/instructions with regard to mediums and communicators. Prior to Mahasamadhi I personally would not have believed even in my wildest dreams that these people would so willingly accept Narsimhamurthy's and now Madhusudhan Naidu's RIDICULOUS claims.

Now SSSCT may certainly not be perfect. It could do a better job in connecting with the Sathya Sai fraternity. It should become BOLD now and remove Shri Indulal Shah from trustee position (or else explain to Sathya Sai fraternity why he is being retained as trustee). Those trustees who are not able to contribute significantly due to health problems should step down (Prof. G. Venkataraman has set an example in this regard by making way for another head of Radio Sai).

And about making way for the young: I have seen how young student-staff became power-crazy and arrogant in the Sai university leading to many seniors (teachers of these student-staff) leaving Sai university and Prasanthi Nilayam. I mean, why will capable seniors tolerate such foolish behaviour from youngsters who lacked maturity and knowledge and who had been their students? I have observed that in public Bhagavan used to give tremendous respect to elders. Further, I believe that the criteria for assessing contribution must not be based on age alone. Today, many over 70 years old people are contributing significantly in many walks of life in India. A clarion call to replace all elders with youngsters may sound very attractive to immature and perhaps power-hungry youngsters but, in my considered view, such a move may, in all probability, create huge problems for the post-Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement.

By making public, audited Balance sheet of SSSCT, I think the trustees have done a great job in bringing financial transparency. Regarding any implied charges of corruption (senior devotee you quoted who will not give a single rupee to PN ashram due to current composition of SSSCT), you need to provide evidence as you are making a very serious charge. I mean, that's the law in India, sir. Suspicion alone cannot be the grounds of making such serious charges against SSSCT which publishes an audited balance sheet annually.

I should also say that if some trustees are wealthy, Sai devotees should not be jealous of them and target them with allegations of corruption in this post-Mahasamadhi phase of the mission. What should be seen is the contribution they are making through their knowledge, experience, stature in society, etc. Some of the trustees are top persons from banking, law and judiciary. How will they feel when such allegations are made against the whole body of SSSCT without evidence? I am afraid I have to say that I strongly disagree with you on these implied allegations of corruption against the whole SSSCT body without any evidence whatsoever.

Regarding the revelations of AP: I have observed many times in Sai Kulwant Hall how Bhagavan would be happy with AP sir and ask him to speak to the gathering in Sai Kulwant Hall. AP sir's talks would be full of devotion and enthusiasm for Sai and the Sai mission. But about what you wrote was conveyed to AP by Swami in Jan. 2011, I am quite shocked. I can say that Bhagavan's physical health was quite down from 2010 onwards itself with even his words being quite hard to understand for many people. Perhaps that created some difficult situations for the leaders of Prasanthi Nilayam ashram. I also have to say that publicly Bhagavan did show a lot of respect towards the leaders, which does not fit in with what you wrote was conveyed to AP.

Friday, November 27, 2015

Narasimhamurthy was referred to as my Vivekananda by Swami in 70s/80s; How sad that he has now strayed from Bhagavan's teachings

I felt it appropriate to put up my recent comment on a Facebook post,, as a separate post.

My comment (slightly edited):

To be honest, now I don't think that Shri Narasimhamurthy believes in Madhusudhan Naidu's ridiculous (and, of course, FALSE) claims of seeing and communicating with an invisible-to-others so called subtle body of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. But he is GOING ALONG WITH, PROMOTING & ENDORSING the charade (pretence) as it is delivering him results in terms of followers and donors. That, to me, is the saddest aspect of this whole thing.

You know, an old timer told me that in the early stages of Brindavan campus, maybe in the 70s or early 80s, (perhaps it was then part of Bangalore university), Bhagavan, this old timer and Shri Narasimhamurthy were present in Brindavan campus. As Narasimhamurthy moved away to do some work, Bhagavan told this old timer that Shri Narasimhamurthy was his Vivekananda!!! What an acknowledgement of Shri Narasimhamurthy's dedication to Bhagavan's mission from Bhagavan Himself! And then, after Mahasamadhi sometime in July 2011, we have Shri Narasimhamurthy straying from Swami's own teaching/instruction to not believe in mediums claiming that Swami (Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba) is interacting through them, with Shri Narasimhamurthy himself becoming a dream-instructions medium initially. Later he made it worse by endorsing the RIDICULOUS claims of so called communicator Madhusudhan Naidu!

As an alternative Sathya Sai mission/platform, Muddenahalli group has achieved astounding success when viewed in terms of free/subsidized schools, free hospital and grand buildings that have been setup. Their latest big announcement in the service area, I read somewhere, is a new hospital in Delhi "announced/prophesied" to begin by Bhagavan birthday next year. But this charade of so called communicator Madhusudhan Naidu backed fully by Narasimhamurthy spoils it all for me personally. It will be wonderful if they stop this charade as early as possible even if that means a temporary fall in donors & followers, as they will then earn the respect of so many Sai devotees (including me) who currently are deeply disturbed by the MOCKERY being made of the HOLY NAME and HOLY WORDS of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba by the impersonator Madhusudhan Rao Naidu.

Narasimhamurthy July 2011 dream captured in July 2011 write-up attributed to him

Last updated on 16th December 2015

In response to a recent Facebook post of Shri Ravi Raj Salyankar​,, I felt it appropriate to contribute to the record of Muddenahalli FALSE CLAIM with this post and linked document attributed to Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy.

As I was SSSIHL (Sai university), Prasanthi Nilayam campus staff till Mar. 2012 (from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012 I provided free service to Sai university with my last designation being Visiting Faculty), I received a mail dated 28th July 2011 which had a document whose contents are reproduced below (and which I have put on the Internet here: having Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy's account of his dream. This was sent to SSSIHL, Prasanthi Nilayam campus teachers mailing list/group by an elder faculty who was not an SSSIHL administrator. The subject of the mail was "prof Narasimhamurthy garu's miraculous dream". I would not be surprised if the then vice-chancellor (VC), Prof. Shashidhara Prasad, who developed complete faith in Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions for running the Sai mission (including SSSIHL), had suggested it to the elder faculty. But I don't know for sure.

I have given below two screenshots of the mail with sender name hidden. The sender is a very nice person/elder who probably was instructed to send out this mail to Prasanthi Nilayam faculty group by some SSSIHL administrator (VC perhaps?)

I am quite sure the document is authored by B.N. Narasimhamurthy himself as it was sent to SSSIHL teachers. I mean, if it was not by B.N. Narasimhamurthy there would have been a follow up mail correcting the error. BTW the subject incorrectly referred to Narasimhamurthy as Prof. Of course, this mail would have been known to all the top administrators of SSSIHL including the vice-chancellor (even if they were not part of PN campus teachers group as such matters would immediately get reported to them). There was no follow-up mail to the Prasanthi Nilayam teachers group from any SSSIHL administrator or any SSSIHL faculty in Prasanthi Nilayam campus (as far as I can recall) which challenged this account of Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy.

In hindsight, I consider this document being sent to Prasanthi Nilayam campus teachers (don't know if similar mail was sent to other campus teachers too) in end July 2011, to be an important milestone perhaps marking the beginning of SSSIHL HIJACK by Narasimhamurthy and then vice-chancellor Prof. Shashidhara Prasad (till Nov. 2014 when Shashidhara Prasad stepped down as VC). The document limits itself to Muddenahalli matters with no mention of SSSIHL. But slowly and steadily over the following months the Sai university, Prasanthi Nilayam campus grapevine had lots of accounts of how the vice-chancellor Shashidhara Prasad had become a complete believer in Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions and that he was ignoring & rejecting the official Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust view on this matter (which rejected Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions as a basis for running the Sai mission). Administrators & faculty who did not oppose Narasimhamurthy's dream instructions claims and perhaps supported him were getting favoured and at least one faculty (Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju) who DARED to question Narasimhamurthy quite openly was harassed by SSSIHL administrators on some technical/bureaucratic grounds and eventually forced to resign!!!

I parted ways with SSSIHL in March 2012 after I saw that senior faculty of around two decades service to SSSIHL (Prof. Krupanidhi and Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju) were being HORRIBLY MISTREATED by some powerful SSSIHL administrators, and I was blocked (in end July/Aug. 2011) by the dept. head (Chandrashekaran) whose blocking efforts were supported, or at least not opposed, by vice-chancellor (Shashidhara Prasad) and the registrar (Naren Ramji), from giving students the chance to continue their association with Bhagavan's PET project, Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini (SSSVV, free online school portal providing Sai system of education). I had run one lab. course on SSSVV from June 2011 to July/early August 2011 which enabled students to study the software of SSSVV developed by a top software consultancy firm in India. The lab. course was a success from students' point of view (based on their anonymous feedback) and from my point of view as the teacher. But the HOD Chandrashekaran decided, for reasons best known to him, to view that success as a problem :-) and blocked me from further association with that work.

I mean, I felt that SSSIHL was being MISMANAGED and was going away from the vision & direction of its founder-chancellor Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. The personal agenda and personal vision of administrators of SSSIHL seemed to have become far more important to follow than the vision of Bhagavan!!!

The Narasimhamurthy July 2011 document contents are given below:



There was a feeling of intense disappointment in many students, teachers and elders at Sathya Sai Grama (Muddenahalli) that Swami had not even seen (physically) the new building on the hill-top which stands as the crest-jewel of the campus and which has been the latest gift of Bhagawan to the campus. It was basically built for His stay during His visits to Sathya Sai Grama. The building was named ‘Prashanthi Towers’ by us. His last visit to Sathya Sai Grama (the 29th visit) was on 14th February 2009 for the Bhoomi-Pooja of the building. Many of us were constantly praying to Him to bless the building with His divine presence.

Swami answered our prayers in the early morning hours on Sunday, the 10th July 2011 by appearing in my dream and giving clear instructions regarding the utilisation of the new building. There were also inspiring words in the dream regarding the institutions here and also about the work to be done by me. While recording the contents of the dream in this write-up, I have omitted a few things which are purely personal in nature. Looking at the content of the dream, I assume the whole experience should have lasted for about 30 minutes. Here is a brief recapitulation of His instructions in the dream:








Though the experience filled my heart with immense joy, I was wondering whether I should share the dream with others; in retrospect, I should confess that the dilemma in my mind was due to lack of complete faith. But the dilemma was resolved the same morning around 11 when one of our old students came and told me that Swami had prompted him to provide one thousand pairs of clothes to be distributed to all the students at Sathya Sai Grama. Then I discussed the matter with senior colleagues who were overjoyed to know about the dream and Swami’s commands. Thus we made all the arrangements required to implement His instructions and the function was held on the Gurupoornima Day (15th July 2011) in ‘Sri Sathya Sai Anandam’. Meanwhile, Swami again appeared in my dream on the next night and gave the names of the two boys telling, “THESE ARE BIG BOYS WHO ARE IN THE MUSIC GROUP!” On enquiry, I was pleasantly surprised to find that among the university and pre-university students (‘BIG BOYS’), there were only two boys with the two names given by Swami and both of them were in their respective music groups! (There are totally around 1000 students in the campus studying in classes starting from V class to I year undergraduate class.)

This re-assuring Leela of Swami has lifted up the spirits of one and all in the campus, and we are now working on plans to bring up a museum in the ground-floor hall. Every morning before sunrise, students and teachers (in batches in rotation) go round ‘Sri Sathya Sai Anandam’ with Nagara-sankeerthan, and Bhajans are held on Thursday evenings. The two students selected by Swami and two teachers are offering regular Seva and Naivedyam to our beloved Lord in ‘Sri Sathya Sai Anandam’ with love and gratitude.                    
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A correspondent passed on this youtube link,, 40 min. 44 secs, uploaded on Nov. 2nd 2011, which has a video recording (mobile camera perhaps) of an exchange with Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy on this dream matter. I had seen this video a few years earlier and it is a confirmation from Shri Narasimhamurthy about his dream mentioned in the contents of the post above. 

Pics of Risen moon over Enumulapalli (near Puttaparthi) pond

Last updated on 27th Nov. 2015

The pics below of the risen moon over Enumulapalli (near Puttaparthi) pond were taken a few days ago on 25th Nov. 2015.

Note that right-click on the pics above and choosing 'Open link in new tab' allows you to see the pic in original (larger) size.

I had first put them up on Facebook here: I have given below edited comments of mine on that post:

Yes, that (Yenumulapalli) is the official spelling. I am used to the old/informal spelling. Let me see if both spellings are in vogue now. If required, I will correct the spelling to Yenumulapalli
I was also struck by the bar of yellow light being reflected in the pond. I presume it is some optical effect from the (reflected) light of the moon. [By (reflected) light I mean that light from the sun reflects off the moon to earth.] The other photo does not show the bar of yellow light - the moon was lower on the horizon then.
I would like to add that it was not a phone-camera introduced effect. I saw the bar of yellow light with my own eyes too.
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I would also like to mention that between the first and second pics I had walked down further on the road adjacent to the Enumulapalli pond.

Tuesday, November 24, 2015

My comment on news articles in Zee News and CNN-IBN on Madhusudhan Naidu

Here are two recent articles from Zee News and CNN-IBN (both are Indian national TV media channels) which state that Madhusudhan Naidu claims to be a reincarnation of Sri Sathya Sai Baba:

I added the following comment to both the above article-webpages (slightly edited):

Madhusudhan Naidu FALSELY CLAIMS to be a so-called communicator who can see and interact with an invisible-to-others so called subtle body/subtle form/light body of Sri Sathya Sai Baba. He does not claim to be a reincarnation of Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

Sadly, many Sathya Sai devotees from India and abroad have got trapped and deluded by Madhusudhan Naidu into believing his claims to be true. That has allowed them to attract lot of funds especially from foreign devotees of Sathya Sai, and start their own spiritual and charitable mission. It has to be noted that this mission that Madhusudhan Naidu is involved with does provide free medical and either free/heavily subsidized educational services in some parts of India which benefit the poor and the needy.

My considered view is that the credit for these wonderful services to the poor & needy sections of Indian society has to go to the POWER of the name and image of Sri Sathya Sai Baba, rather than any impersonation-type actions of Madhusudhan Naidu.
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Sunday, November 22, 2015

An exchange on need for proof/evidence for belief in God/mystical powers

Given below is an exchange I recently had (slightly edited) with an old friend & former software industry colleague going back around three decades to my first software company, Datamatics Ltd.,, in SEEPZ (, Mumbai, India. [The friend gave her approval to share her part of the exchange publicly].

In the course of an exchange with multiple persons on faith and evidence/proof for faith, the above-mentioned friend/correspondent wrote:

I am ever curious and continue my quest to understand better but will not accept and believe until proven.

It is possible that there is something out there beyond the comprehension of my simple mind. While I respect other peaceful believers, I condemn those who impose their beliefs on others. I would be happy to reconsider my beliefs if a counter is backed by science.
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Ravi response to correspondent:

I can empathize with your view as that was my view prior to me first reading about accounts of mystical power of Sri Sathya Sai Baba which seemed to me to have a ring of truth about them (especially those written by Western authors), and then having SUBJECTIVE experience of mystical power of Sri Sathya Sai Baba, MYSELF. That, over a period of around two decades, changed my view of Avatars and deity-like-figures in non-Hindu religions like Jesus Christ in Christianity, dramatically.

I have given below the contents of a blog post of mine, Swami (Sathya Sai Baba) made Jesus, Rama and Krishna real for me,, dated February 12th 2015:

A Sai devotee told me that Swami, i.e. Sathya Sai Baba, made Jesus real for him. He had read parts of the New Testament earlier but it was not with faith that Jesus was a real person. It was after he came to Swami that Jesus (of the New Testament) became real for him.

I think it is similar for me. In my youth I had doubted the reality of divine powers attributed to Rama and Krishna. Reading about Swami and becoming part of the Sathya Sai fraternity gave me some degree of faith in the reality of not only Jesus, but also Rama and Krishna. Later, as a teacher in his university at PrashantiNilayam, I had direct experiences of Swami's divine/paranormal powers, which has convinced me that Jesus, Rama and Krishna were real figures with divine/paranormal powers. So Swami has made Jesus, Rama and Krishna real for me.

I am now reading leading historian of ancient India, Romila Thapar's book, "The Past Before Us. Historical Traditions of Early North India", I just finished reading the chapter on Mahabharata. The next chapter is on Ramayana. What is striking for me about the Mahabharata chapter is that divine powers of Krishna are not considered to be real, even if she considers some part(s) of Mahabharata like the Kurukshetra war to be a historical event. As a historian, I guess, she cannot go by belief like me. What a great difference faith makes in readings of epics like Ramayana and Mahabharata. The same is the case for the vital book for Christians, The New Testament.

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I think your view is like that of Romila Thapar, perhaps the most eminent ancient India historian today. [She responded to one or two emails of mine some months or maybe a year or so earlier. So she is still very much active and accessible.] I respect such views (especially as I had similar views in the past), and there is no question whatsoever of me trying to impose my view on folks like you (or anybody else).

The limitation of science in such matters is that it limits itself to OBJECTIVE evidence. But so much of our life deals with SUBJECTIVE experience. The love that one gives & receives to/from one's loved ones in family & friends circle of ours, is not OBJECTIVELY measured, is it? It is a SUBJECTIVE experience. When we read about love in books written by others we do not demand OBJECTIVE evidence before we are willing to consider it as possibly true. As we have had such experiences of love WITHOUT OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE we are able to relate to those SUBJECTIVE experience accounts of others. We do not say that science has not declared them to be proven (scientific fact) and so we will not believe it.

[About Objective & Subjective:
From "An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria."

Ravi: I think the subjective claim definition above should also mention individual emotional experience besides belief & opinion. The emotional experience may not be scientifically established fact but cannot be said to be fiction/false.

And here's a nice and quite easy to understand  "Objective versus Subjective Claims Video",, 10 min 35 secs, published in Aug. 2013. The objective claim considered is "This dog is dressed up like Yoda." and the subjective claim is "This dog is adorable."]

For those who have not had experiences of mystical powers and do not have faith in scripture, I think a balanced stand on these matters related to mystical/supernatural powers mentioned about Rama, Krishna and Jesus, in scripture, is to say that it may have been true or it may have been false/exaggerated. To say that believers in such mystical powers related to Rama, Krishna and Jesus, are stupid, since there is no scientific evidence to prove that they had those powers, is, IMHO, demonstrating an unwillingness to accept that there can be anything grander than what science tells us, and a rather sad fanaticism limiting one's understanding of human experience to the boundaries of science.

You wrote, "It is possible that there is something out there beyond the comprehension of my simple mind." I applaud your stand. That's the right view to take and that, if & when you do encounter mystical/divine experiences, will enable you to appreciate the SUBJECTIVE TRUTH of those experiences.

Now I must also say that it is certainly possible for some mystical experiences to be wild imaginations of hysterical people. And there is a lot of exaggeration that goes on in spiritual and religious circles associated with such matters. But, based on my individual experience and journey in the Sathya Sai movement, I assure you that all such mystical experiences are NOT wild imaginations or hysteria. Now I do not have OBJECTIVE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE for it. You will have to view my statement on the basis of how genuine and authentic a person you view me as, now and in the past. In other words, like in a court of law, the matter boils down to, is the guy a reliable eyewitness or not? Of course, I will not impose my views on you. You are entirely free to not believe my statements on experiences of mystical power :-)

About science: I do have my rather reasonably informed views now about how science itself is not so crisply black-and-white especially the frontier research areas, with competing (sometimes very aggressively competing) schools of thought among leading scientists in these research areas. Science does go wrong at times. However, science has shown that such erroneous "scientific facts" get exposed and reversed later by other scientists. So the self-correcting mechanism of science seems to be not just good, but excellent.

[I thank and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above small extract from their website on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]

Friday, November 20, 2015

Washermen of Puttaparthi are part of its ecosystem/society; Automation threatens jobs & livelihood

[Update: I have rephrased the paragraph below in my own words]

Automation and globalization seem to be important factors contributing to making it difficult for not-well-skilled people (especially those from economically & socially challenged sections of society) to get and keep a good and well paying job in the developed economy countries of the world.

Ravi: Of course, emerging economies like India have their HUGE challenges as well though globalization currently seems to be working in its favour (materially). Automation though may be an even bigger challenge in terms of jobs to eke out a living for youth in India than it is in developed economies. In Puttaparthi it is as simple as coin operated laundromats being a threat to so many (manual) washermen families - perhaps that's the reason Puttaparthi does not have a coin operated laundromat even today (though some families have washing machines at home).

Today (20th Nov. 2015) the sun was out in Puttaparthi after a few days of the sun being hidden by clouds and rain. As it is Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba birthday (23rd Nov.) celebrations time there are a lot of visitors in Puttaparthi town already. I was walking along the road that's on one side of the Chitravathi river bed (usually dry but now has some water though not running water), enjoying the sun and its warmth. I saw a lot of washing put out to dry near the Chitravathi river and clicked some snaps of it.

These pics tell the reality of washermen (who do ironing too) families making a living with their manual washing (and ironing) in Puttaparthi. They are part of the ecosystem and society of Puttaparthi. As I have been using the same washerman for around a decade now, he is a good friend of mine now and I also know his family! Beats going to a coin operated laundromat (like the ones I used in my stays in Europe & USA in the 80s and early 90s), anyday, anytime!

I responded to a comment on my Facebook post,, having the same content as the above contents of this blog post as follows:

Well, I am certainly all for reducing the burden of hard work on rural and urban poor of India. (It may be similar elsewhere in the (materially) developing world but I do not know for certain and so am limiting my comments to India, in this regard). Western Europe, I guess, is a post-feudal society; As a whole, India has still not emerged out of feudal society though democracy has done wonders for the material benefits and rights of the poor & marginalized in India (as compared to what it was when India got independence from the British in 1947).

Automation has to be done very carefully in India with a good and effective migration plan and full consultation and concurrence of those whose livelihoods and way of living are threatened by it. Unfortunately, that does not happen well enough in India. Fortunately, democracy and the trade union movement is quite strong now in India. So when automation threatens livelihood of the poor, they organize under trade union and/or political leadership and block it.

So far, Sweden may have had it good with automation. But I don't think that can be said of many countries in Europe and even USA. People who lack the skills to participate in the modern economy of well developed countries like USA and some countries in Europe, find it very difficult to get a job. Simple manufacturing jobs are very hard to get, which may not have been the case a few decades ago. That joblessness leads them to wrong paths sometimes. The figures for youth unemployment TODAY in some sections of the populace in USA (African-Americans) and some countries in Europe (immigrant background youths) are SCARY! The analysis is that it is so high among them due to them not having requisite skills. But then nobody seems to have delivered a good solution so far in terms of imparting them skills which will give them good and decently paid jobs! Where will these youth go? These are TOUGH questions, it seems to me.

To this if you add in the issues of rising wealth and income inequality in some parts of the developed world (and some parts of the developing world, including India), it seems to me that something is wrong in the direction in which the world economies are going in terms of automation and globalization. The challenge in most parts of the world for most of the youth (and unemployed) populace there, is not to reduce the workweek to 30 hours a week, but to get and keep a good and well paying job of 40 or even 45 hours a week!
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Sathya Sai teaches lesson to Kasturi on not interfering with karma of others in Prasanthi Nilayam

Last updated on 22nd Nov. 2015

This incident was related to me recently by the grandson of Shri N. Kasturi (first editor of Sanathana Sarathi and writer of initial volumes of Sathyam Shivam Sundaram, the authorized biography of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba). The grandson is Shri Rameesh Kasturi, who also gave his approval for the account to be shared publicly. The incident was shared with Shri Rameesh Kasturi by his mother, who, if I got that correctly, is the daughter of Shri N. Kasturi.

There was a Maharaja's son staying in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram who had become well acquainted and friendly with Shri N. Kasturi. After some months of this person's stay in the ashram, Shri N. Kasturi felt that he should help him get a job (in the government perhaps but outside Puttaparthi) and so, in his personal capacity, recommended him for a job to people known to him.

When Swami came to know of this matter, Swami was very upset with Kasturi. Swami told Kasturi that the Maharaja's son was in the ashram for some months as he was working out his karma. By Kasturi interfering in this karmic matter without taking Swami's permission he had created a problem. Further, Swami told Kasturi that either Swami should continue to stay in Prasanthi Nilayam ashram or Kasturi should continue to stay!!! Of course, that would have terrified Kasturi, and one presumes that Kasturi would have apologized profusely for his mistake and begged forgiveness, due to which our merciful Lord Sathya Sai would have forgiven him and allowed him to stay on in Prasanthi Nilayam.

Ravi: In this context, when I was serving in the Sai university, Prasanthi Nilayam campus, in early 2010 I got caught up in some big problem (of my own making), which got escalated to Swami. When I discussed this matter with colleagues in the Sai university, they backed off once they realized the sensitivities involved, and refused to get involved. One person who I respected a lot because of his spiritual insight and understanding of life in Prasanthi Nilayam under Swami's gaze, clearly indicated that he did not want to get involved but wished me all the best!!! At that time, I felt let down by them as I was left to myself to deal with the problem. Later I realized that it perhaps was my karma/destiny, along with some foolish actions of mine then (related to inappropriate spiritual practice), that led to the problem in the first place. The foolish actions of mine that led to the problem seem to have been just a surface level trigger with perhaps a much deeper karmic/destiny matter being below the surface.

It was then my karma to go through the churn. I had to beg forgiveness from Swami for my mistakes during Darshan via prayer/thoughts (I did not attempt to speak to him; I felt prayer/thoughts and his facial gesture response was the appropriate method for me to communicate/interact with him at that time (2010)). First few days after the matter got escalated to Swami he did not even come to the gents' side during Darshan (I used to sit in the old students block as I was comfortable with that given some health issues that I had/have). I had to pray real hard and, if I recall correctly, after three days or so he gave a full round of Darshan including gents side. Oh what a relief that was for me! I was feeling very guilty wondering whether it was because of me that Swami was avoiding coming to gents' side and so depriving others in the gents' side of close darshan! That was excruciating emotional churn! So it was great emotional relief for me when he did do that full round of Darshan.

Over the days & weeks that followed, eventually he allowed his glance to fall on me and sometimes stay on me for those precious split-seconds or sometimes even seconds, which was a signal to me that Swami has, in his boundless mercy, forgiven me. But had I learnt my lesson or what!!! Perhaps I needed to go through that churn and then be forced to beg for forgiveness from Swami, to learn how to be very, very careful with deep spiritual practices one does or even spiritual insights one has, and go the extra mile to avoid hurting others due to foolish/inappropriate spiritual practices.

The bottom line seems to be that in spiritual ashram/town environments many people are working out their karma, knowingly or unknowingly, under the eye/grace of a spiritual master. While one should be willing to help those in trouble, we should not be over-enthusiastic with material level help (e.g. finding somebody a job) without a go-ahead from the spiritual master (or spiritually wise elders of the ashram in the physical absence of the spiritual master).

Thursday, November 19, 2015

Delhi based Islamic scholar argues for plans to rebut & root out terror ideologies

Today's (19th Nov. 2015) Deccan Chronicle carried this article, Time to call a spade a spade,, by Delhi based young Islamic scholar Ghulam Rasool Dehlvi.

I made the following comment (slightly edited) on it (under moderation as of now and so does not appear on the page):

I applaud the author, a Delhi based Islamic scholar, for so clearly, crisply and courageously denouncing the ideology behind attacks like the recent Paris terror attacks, explaining the mainstream and moderate Islamic view (which denounces such terror), and arguing for "concrete action plans for rebutting and rooting out terror ideologies instead of targeting innocent Muslims and condemning an entire faith, tradition and culture." Well done, sir. Sabka Maalik Ek! (There is one master of all)! Allah Maalik! (Allah is the master)! Eashwar Maalik! (Eashwar is the master)! Allah & Eashwar are two names of the same God viewed under different traditions of Islam and Hinduism (and other religions like Christianity too).

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Friday, November 13, 2015

My May 2012 service record & record tampering related correspondence with Sai university (SSSIHL) administrators

Last updated on 2nd Nov 2016
Minor update on 13-Sep-2018

Please note that this post is a very long one. If you are not really interested in this matter you may either skim through it or skip it altogether.

As the post-Mahasamadhi Sathya Sai movement struggles INTERNATIONALLY with the SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT of the Muddenahalli group with their FALSE CLAIM of so called subtle body of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba based in Muddenahalli with a so called communicator, Sai university (SSSIHL) alumnus, Sri Madhusudhan Naidu, fully endorsed (and perhaps even MANAGED) by former warden of the Sai university, Sri B.N. Narasimhamurthy, and which is supported by former vice-chancellor of the Sai university Prof. Shashidhara Prasad (VC till Nov. 2014), I felt it appropriate to share my email exchange in May 2012 on a service record and record tampering related matter with Prof. Shashidhara Prasad and Prof. Sudhir Bhaskar.

The background to this is that by early 2012 I had come to know enough about Shashidhara Prasad being under the influence of Narasimhamurthy and it had become clear that Shashidhara Prasad was now the BIG BOSS of SSSIHL with nobody daring to question him. By then I also came to know about how senior faculty who were RESPECTED by Bhagavan for their decades of service, like Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju and Prof. Krupanidhi (Biosciences prof. & HOD, and Dean of sciences), were being HORRIBLY MISTREATED by Sai university administration, and so were effectively out of the picture in terms of influencing matters in the Sai university. The atmosphere in the Sai university had changed drastically within just one year of Bhagavan's Mahasamadhi!

I had decided to terminate my relationship with the Sai university in March 2012 after a HORRIBLE interaction with the Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji. But I wanted to teach these Sai university administration fellows a LESSON in ETHICAL behaviour (forget about Sai spiritual behaviour; I am talking about plain worldly ethics), and so engaged in this matter OFFICIALLY with Shashidhara Prasad. The response from Shashidhara Prasad shows how he was least interested in looking into the matter and so failed in his DUTY as Vice-chancellor of the Sai university. The response from Sudhir Bhaskar also shows that he too failed in his DUTY. It was like a Stalinist institution. Do what we say or get out!!!

I have given below the contents of the email exchange

From Ravi Iyer <>
To: Vice-Chancellor SSSIHL <>,
"Prof. A Sudhir Bhaskar FMAC, SSSIHL" <>
CC: "Prof. U S Rao SBMAF, SSSIHL" <>
Date: Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM
Subject: Request to Resolve Designation Confusion & Provide Service Record

To: 1) Prof. Shashidhar Prasad, Vice-Chancellor, Administrative Block, Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning, Puttaparthi, Andhra Pradesh - 515134
      2) Prof. Sudhir Bhaskar, Director, Prasanthinilayam campus, Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning, Puttaparthi, Andhra Pradesh - 515134

CC: 1) Prof. U.S. Rao, Ex-Principal, Prasanthinilayam campus, Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning,  Puttaparthi, Andhra Pradesh - 515134

From: Shri Ravi S. Iyer, --- address snipped ---

Date: 18th May 2012

Dear Gentlemen,

Sai Ram sir!

I write this letter to you gentlemen to resolve confusion regarding my designation during my years of service in the Department of Mathematics & Computer Science (DMACS), Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning (SSSIHL) from Jan. 2003 to March 2012 and also to request for my correct service record for the same period. I have written to both Vice-Chancellor, SSSIHL as well as Director, Prasanthinilayam (PSN) campus, SSSIHL so that you may please co-ordinate as to who is the right person to look into this matter. I have copied this mail to the ex-Principal, PSN, SSSIHL as he was the campus authority who signed on all the identity cards which specified my designation and were issued to me during my service period in SSSIHL. I shall also send all three of you gentlemen a paper hard copy of this email with my handwritten signature to prove that this mail/letter is from me as that may be necessary from a procedural point of view for SSSIHL, a University Grants Commission (UGC) deemed university, and also a paper copy of the attachments, by courier in a day or two.

I am writing this letter to you gentlemen instead of writing to the Registrar, SSSIHL, Dr. Naren Ramji, as I found the Registrar's behaviour to be very strange when I met him on March 2nd 2012. Though he had given me a letter dated 4th June 2011 on SSSIHL letterhead and duly signed by him which clearly stated that I am designated as Visiting Faculty in DMACS for Academic year 2011-12 (please see attachment: "Ravi Iyer Revised Designation 2011.jpg"), he said that I was not designated as "Visiting Faculty" on his records!!! He further said that I was a "Seva Dal" (I presume he implied that his records had me as a "Seva Dal")!!! I found this behaviour to be very odd and extremely inappropriate for a Registrar of a deemed university. I have rejected his oral view and gone only by the aforementioned written letter where I am designated as Visiting Faculty. Further I felt that it is inappropriate for me to interact with the Registrar any further and so I decided to write directly to you gentlemen on this matter. It is also appropriate for me to state that I decided to part ways with SSSIHL due to this strange behaviour of the Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji, in my meeting with him on March 2nd 2012.

[I must also mention that from a spiritual perspective I consider Sri Sathya Sai "Seva Dal" to be a badge of great spiritual honour and prestige. But I believe that the Registrar of SSSIHL, Dr. Naren Ramji, has to follow UGC norms for his record keeping duties and "Seva Dal", in my opinion, is an unacceptable designation from UGC norms point of view for a person who taught lab. courses for over 8 years as free service.]

Before I give further details I feel it is appropriate for me to mention that as a free service activity to Indian Computer Science (CS) and Information Technology (IT) students and their parents I now am trying to help improve the practice of software development in CS & IT education in All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE) and UGC regulated academic institutions country-wide by trying to bring about some changes at AICTE/UGC and MHRD (Ministry of Human Resource Development, Government of India) policy level for appointment and promotion of CS & IT academics. If you would like to know more about my view of the matter I request you to read the attached preprint version abstract ("arXiv Abstract- Improve the Practice.pdf") and paper ("Paper - Improve The Practice.pdf") authored by me (Here are the net links for the same: Abstract:; Pdf: I have submitted this paper in a slightly modified form to ACM Inroads which is a magazine intended for professionals interested in advancing computing education in the world ( for peer review and possible acceptance for publication.

In regard to my Indian CS & IT academic reform activism efforts I am having correspondence exchange with MHRD and I am also writing to the AICTE chairman and the AIB-ITE (All India Board of Information Technology Education) chairman. I think that there is an outside chance that some officials from MHRD and/or AICTE may, in future, write to SSSIHL asking for my service record. Further I may need my official service record from SSSIHL for my future service activities in Indian CS & IT education field outside of SSSIHL. I want to ensure that there is consistency between two currently inconsistent views on my designations and service record, which are:

1) My view which is based on what the then Principal, Prashanti Nilayam campus, the very honourable and very respected Prof. U.S. Rao sir, stated and signed on the identity cards issued to me during my years of service at DMACS, SSSIHL.


2) The service record that the Registrar, as per his oral view expressed in my meeting with him on March 2nd 2012, seems to have as that is what may be provided by SSSIHL in response to appropriate requests for my service record.

I have three identity cards that were given to me from the years Jan. 2003 to March 2012 and their details are as follows:

1) Honorary Staff signed by the then Principal, Prashanti Nilayam campus, SSSIHL, Prof. U.S. Rao with no date or validity period. If I recall correctly, this was issued during the initial years of my service.

2) Honorary Faculty signed by the then Principal Prashanti Nilayam campus, SSSIHL, Prof. U.S. Rao with no date or validity period. This replaced the earlier identity card and was current for a few years.

3) Visiting Faculty card signed by the then Principal Prashanti Nilayam campus, SSSIHL, Prof. U.S. Rao for the period June 2011 to March 2012.

I have attached a scanned copy of these identity cards to this mail (Please see attachment: "Ravi S. Iyer - SSSIHL Identity Cards.pdf").

The letters addressed by the Registrar to DMACS HOD with copy to me regarding my service during these years did not mention any designation. As an example of such a letter, I have attached the letter from the Registrar dated 20th April 2011 which gave permission to DMACS HOD, Prof. V. Chandrasekaran to utilize services of Dr. Jayaprakash (a senior academic, ex-IIT Madras) and me for academic year 2011-12 (Please see attachment: "Prof V Jayaprakash and Mr Ravi Iyer 2011.jpg"). DMACS HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran had mentioned sometime during academic year 2010-11 if I recall correctly, to my utter surprise, that the identity card issued by the Principal to me does not show the correct designation. What this implied was that DMACS HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran did not respect the view of Principal, Prahanti Nilayam campus, SSSIHL of my designation. So, as a precondition to my free service offering to DMACS for academic year 2011-12, I had insisted on receiving a letter from the Registrar confirming my designation as Visiting Faculty for academic year 2011-12 which the Registrar complied with through his letter dated 4th June 2011 as mentioned above.

Additional details about my service from my records is as follows:

1) Prof. CJM Rao, then DMACS HOD, on 29th Jan. 2003 gave me a handwritten letter designating me as Systems Manager in AI Lab. In that letter he put down activities of (Systems Management of) AI Lab, (teaching) Software Lab courses and (technical consultancy for) IInd M.Tech.(CS) projects. He also wrote initials of two DMACS members who, he told me orally, were supposed to assist me. However this is just a handwritten letter and will not be acceptable in any respectable forum as proof of designation or service record.

2) From Jan. 2003 to Jan. 2008 I performed the service of Systems Manager of AI Lab. I discontinued offering this service after Jan. 2008.

3) From June 2003 to August 2011 I taught Software Lab courses (one or two courses per semester). You may confirm this from the marksheet records for these courses which I presume will be available with the Controller of Examinations. These marksheets bear my name and signature as the teacher for these courses. [It is appropriate for me to mention here that as an international software consultant (industry expert) I introduced many new software lab. courses to DMACS some of which are now being taught by other faculty (mainly using my course structure and material) and have been highly appreciated by some past and present DMACS faculty who are knowledgeable about software development and, very importantly for me, also by the students.]

4) From June 2003 to March 2012 I provided technical consultancy/guidance to many M.Tech. and M.Sc. computer software projects. However I was not recognized as a guide or a co-guide by DMACS and SSSIHL. The project theses of students to whom I provided technical consultancy service/guidance reflects my contribution in their acknowledgement of my industry expertise based technical guidance rendered for their project work.

My expectation is that my service record which will be provided by SSSIHL in response to any appropriate requests from outside institutions/agencies/individuals should be TRUTHFUL and reflect the activities I have mentioned above. It should also show the designations given to me by the Principal of SSSIHL, Prashanti Nilayam campus as those were the designations that I naturally believed were accorded to me officially by SSSIHL during my over 9 years of free service in SSSIHL. Further, I tried my best to render this free service to SSSIHL as per that designation. I request you gentlemen to please take appropriate and just action on this matter. Specifically I request you gentlemen to advise the Registrar to make appropriate corrections to his records, if necessary. I further request you to send me my CORRECT and TRUTHFUL official SSSIHL service record for the years Jan. 2003 to March 2012 to my home-office address given in the email signature below or as a scanned document by email to the email address given in the email signature below.

Some, if not all, of you gentlemen know that SSSIHL had FALSELY shown me as a Teaching Assistant in a document titled, "Annual Quality Assurance Report (AQAR) for the year 2009-10 submitted by Internal Quality Assurance Cell (IQAC)". Please see attached document, "Page35-SSSIHL-AQAR-2009-10.pdf" which has the offending page of the document. If you gentlemen want the entire document please let me know as I have downloaded a copy of the document from SSSIHL website. I was shocked beyond belief when I saw this document on SSSIHL web site in February 2012 and demanded that the Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji, and DMACS HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran initiate corrective action which was done by the document being removed from SSSIHL website. I request you gentlemen to please ensure that the Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji, DMACS HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran and/or anybody else in SSSIHL do not succeed in any possible attempts to show me FALSELY as a Teaching Assistant in my service record.

I also request you gentlemen to please understand my request for having this matter resolved only through written communication. Ever since I showed interest in the Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini project sometime in October 2010 I feel I have been mentally harassed and persecuted by an individual in DMACS. The very strange behaviour of the Registrar, SSSIHL, Dr. Naren Ramji, when I met him on March 2nd 2012, has added to this feeling of mental harassment and persecution. This has affected my health. I do not want to risk spoiling my health any further by having any meetings or oral interaction on this matter with concerned office bearers of SSSIHL.

I will be greatly obliged if either of you gentlemen acknowledge receipt of this email at the earliest.

I pray to the Shiva Shakti Swarupa, Kali Yuga Avatar, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Garu to continue showering His Grace on the Divine University, Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning. I further pray to Him for a peaceful and amicable resolution of this designation dispute and service record matter.

Jai Sai Ram!


Ravi S. Iyer
Software Consultant

---Address snipped ---

web: (hosted at,
           Open Source "Service to Society" IT Apps.
           Indian CS & IT Academic Reform Activism
Service to Society is Service to God

---- end email ----

Given below is a screenshot of the top of the above mail (with mail header info. box):

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[Ravi note (NOT part of email): The record tampering case where I was FALSELY shown as Teaching Assistant in the "Annual Quality Assurance Report (AQAR) for the year 2009-10 submitted by Internal Quality Assurance Cell (IQAC)" which I presume involves Dr. Naren Ramji, then (and I believe, current) Registrar of SSSIHL, and Dr. Chandrashekaran, then HOD of DMACS, SSSIHL, is a criminal offence under the Indian Penal Code. BTW two other senior gentleman (Visiting Faculty type designations) offering, I believe, FREE SERVICE were also shown by these SHAMELESS Sai university administrators  as Teaching Assistants. Use-abuse-and-throw seemed to be the policy of Sai university administration when it came to FREE SERVICE contributors to it.

In the statement "Ever since I showed interest in the Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini project sometime in October 2010 I feel I have been mentally harassed and persecuted by an individual in DMACS.", the individual I referred to is the then Head of Department (HOD) of DMACS, Prof. Chandrashekaran. end-Ravi-note.]

Given below is the response from Prof. Shashidhara Prasad

From: Vice-Chancellor SSSIHL <>
Cc: Registrar SSSIHL <>
Date: Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Request to Resolve Designation Confusion & Provide Service Record

Sairam Dear Sri Ravi Iyer.

At the outset I did not like to respond to your long e-mail which is infested with some venom and also is not in conformity with the administrative norms. Any person seeking clarification or justice should address the letter to the head of the institution and mark the same to other officials. It is not fair or legally correct to send one common letter to officers of different level. I am not answerable to those matters for which you have sought redressal from the Principal/The Director, who must have given you the designations.I am interested to uphold the dignity and integrity of the post. As an individual,at the personal level i can buckle for love and affection. But when the dignity and honour of  the office of the Vice-Chancellor is at stake, I will not compromise. I hope you will appreciate my stand.

Sairam and regards

J Shashidhara Prasad

--- end email ----

Given below are two screenshots of the above mail (one with mail header info.):

You may open the above images in a new tab (typically by right-click menu command: open link in new tab) to see it in magnified form.

[Ravi note (NOT part of email): Essentially, Shashidhara Prasad, instead of doing his DUTY as VC by looking into my request and complaint which had relevant supporting documents, chose to view my mail as being "infested with some venom"!!! The classic brush-off by a power-crazy and arrogant top official. end-Ravi-note]

Here's my response to Shashidhara Prasad:

From: Ravi Iyer <>
To: Vice-Chancellor SSSIHL <>
Date: Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Request to Resolve Designation Confusion & Provide Service Record

Dear Prof. Shashidhar Prasad sir,

Sai Ram sir!

Thank you so much for kindly responding to my mail.

I am sorry that my letter has caused offense to you, sir. That certainly was not my intention.

I gather from your response, sir, that the Director/Principal who have given me the designations is the correct official to respond to my request. As my letter is also addressed to the Director I will await a response from him.

You wrote, sir, that "when the dignity and honour of the office of the Vice-Chancellor is at stake, I will not compromise". As a Sai devotee I greatly applaud your stand, sir. I think it is also appropriate for me to state here that, in my humble opinion, you, sir, have done a FANTASTIC service to Bhagavan's mission by standing firm and steering Bhagavan's Divine university at a time of great storm when He decided to give up His physical body. If I may say so, by your dedicated efforts and that of many others in SSSIHL, in my humble opinion, stability and continuity of SSSIHL has been ensured. That is a very significant achievement. I personally thank you for that wonderful service that you have done, sir.

I simply hope to get my truthful service record. Once I get that then I need not bother anybody in SSSIHL.

I pray to Bhagavan for a peaceful and amicable resolution of my problem.


Ravi S. Iyer
Software Consultant

--- rest of signature snipped ---
--- end email ----

[Ravi note (NOT part of email): At that time, if I recall correctly, I thought that I had to be polite to the chair of the VC of the Sai university in my written communication!!! If I had known the extent then (which I know now) of how much damage Shashidhara Prasad had already done then, and continued to do, to the DIVINE VISION of Sai university by coming under spell of Narasimhamurthy, I surely would not have been so polite. Further, at that time NOBODY in the Sai university SUPPORTED me even though I forwarded these mail exchanges to many seniors & colleagues in the university. One colleague offered Good Luck but did not support me by stating that what the Sai university administration had done was WRONG. I don't blame him as he perhaps was afraid that if he did so, he would face the wrath of VC, Prof. Shashidhara Prasad, Registrar Dr. Naren Ramji, and HOD Prof. Chandrashekaran. Another person who worked in a separate Sai institution did try to say kind words but essentially he too was not willing to fault Sai university administration. But that was it. Nobody else from the Sai university seniors & colleagues I had written to, responded! I felt like this is how the Jews would have felt in Nazi Germany when the Nazis targeted them and none of their non-Jewish German friends and neighbours helped them. Of course, I did not face any physical attacks; I am talking about the mental trauma of such INSTITUTIONAL BETRAYAL. The Sai university then had truly become a Hitler/Stalin rule institution. Also, my health had got badly affected by this matter, and so I may have felt that I should be polite in my mail response. 

I should also say that I forwarded these mails to some former students of mine. A couple of them provided me moral support which was very helpful. I mean, I felt that at least there are a few people among those I know in the Sai setup (but who were no longer in the Sai setup and so were freer in their responses, perhaps), who are willing to stand up for Sathya & Dharma!!! end-Ravi-note]

This is the mail I then wrote to Prof. Sudhir Bhaskar:

From: Ravi Iyer <>
To: "Prof. A Sudhir Bhaskar FMAC, SSSIHL" <>
Date: Sat, May 19, 2012 at 6:15 PM
Subject: Fwd: Request to Resolve Designation Confusion & Provide Service Record

Dear Prof. Sudhir Bhaskar,

From the mail response of the the Vice-Chancellor, SSSIHL forwarded below (including my response to him) I gather that you, sir, are the appropriate official to respond to my mail. As my mail is also addressed to you, I will await a response from you, sir.


Ravi S. Iyer
Software Consultant

--- rest of signature snipped ---
--- end email ----

Later I forwarded the above mail trail to over 40 persons that I had interacted with during my years of service in Sai university (and short stints in other parts of PN ashram) almost all of whom were either in Sai university or in other Prasanthi Nilayam managed Sai institutions. Given below is the content of that mail sent on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:16 PM:

Dear all,

After some thought I felt I should share Respected Vice-Chancellor sir's response and my response to him with you all. Somehow I feel that we need more transparency in Parthi affairs. I think that will really clear the air. If I am guilty hang me but let it be a transparent trial. It is the lack of transparency that sows doubt in people's minds. They start seeing funny business even in straight forward matters.

So I have decided to share the mail exchange with you all and also my mail to Director of campus.

VC sir pulled me up. I have not taken it to heart. He is a very accomplished academic with very significant academic administrative experience. And he is elder to me by at least 10 years. He thinks I am the poisoner. I think I am stating facts. Anyway, this is my Chakravyuhu. I have to go through the experience :).

Let me see whether Director campus acts on my request. Now I just want my truthful service record - that's it.


--- end email ----

Here is Prof. Sudhir Bhaskar's response:

From: Prof. A Sudhir Bhaskar, Director & Hon. Professor, FMAC, SSSIHL <>
To: Ravi Iyer <>
CC: Registrar SSSIHL <>
Date: Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: Request to Resolve Designation Confusion & Provide Service Record

Sai ram Ravi iyer
As far as I know your problem of designation has been resolved by the Registrar long back .
I would like to point out that you have committed impropriety by not marking your mail in this trail addressed to our respected vc to
The Registrar also , who would have briefed him fully.
Since I am not in partly and on vacation will attend to your mail on return

--- end email ---

[Ravi note (NOT part of email): So Sudhir Bhaskar's first response was to ignore the request/complaint I had made and instead pass the ball to the Registrar, and try to fault me!!! end Ravi note]

Here is my response to him.

From: Ravi Iyer <>
To: "Prof. A Sudhir Bhaskar, Director & Hon. Professor, FMAC, SSSIHL" <>
Date: Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Request to Resolve Designation Confusion & Provide Service Record

Sairam Prof. Sudhir Bhaskar,

Thank you for responding to this mail.

I do not agree with certain views you have expressed in this mail. But I do not want to exacerbate the issue.

As the Vice-Chancellor has indicated that you, sir, are the correct authority to contact for the service record, I simply request you to provide me my truthful service record. That will completely close the matter.

I have noted that you have written that you will attend to my mail after you come back to Puttaparthi. I thank you for that kindness, sir.

I pray to Bhagavan for a peaceful, amicable and Dharmic solution to my problem.


Ravi S. Iyer
Software Consultant

--- rest of signature snipped ---
--- end email ---

Here's a mail I sent to the 40 odd contacts I mentioned earlier (and around 10 friends & family of mine unconnected with Sai institutions and who are not Sai devotees):

From: Ravi Iyer <>
Date: Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:28 AM
Subject: SSSIHL Service Record Problem: Request your thoughts on what I should do next

Dear all,

It has been about 9 to 10 days since I sent my request to resolve designation confusion and provide service record to VC, SSSIHL and Director, PSN campus, SSSIHL on May 18th 2012.

As the mail trail below shows the Director, PSN campus on May 21st, wrote me that he will attend to my mail on his return to Parthi from vacation. I believe he is already back in Parthi now.

I have not got any further response from him, yet. I plan to wait till the first few days of June before I send a reminder.

But I analyzed the mails from VC and Director, PSN campus to see how they have been viewing my problem so far. Here is the analysis in points.

1) VC did not seem to be interested in reading my long email. He felt is was "infested with some venom". Further, he wrote that he is "not answerable to those matters for which you have sought redressal from the Principal/The Director, who must have given you the designations". So, clearly VC wanted me to approach Director, PSN campus for resolving my designation confusion and providing service record.

2) In particular, VC has refused to take cognizance of what I wrote about how DMACS, HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran and SSSIHL Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji behaved with me (deplorable manner, in my opinion) in this designation confusion matter. Perhaps that is what he refers to as "infested with some venom"!

3) Director, PSN campus wrote, "As far as I know your problem of designation has been resolved by the Registrar long back". The Director seems to be referring to the written letter of the Registrar, "long back", (that stated my designation was "Visiting Faculty").

4) The Director, PSN campus also has refused to take cognizance of what I wrote about how DMACS, HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran and SSSIHL Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji behaved with me (deplorable manner, in my opinion).

5) Specifically, VC & Director, PSN campus have ignored my statements about SSSIHL Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji telling me orally that I was not designated as "Visiting Faculty" on his records in my meeting with him on March 2nd 2012 though he had given me a written letter signed by him on SSSIHL letterhead stating that I was designated as "Visiting Faculty".

From this analysis I feel that SSSIHL administration is taking a very tough and offensive stand with me and is protecting DMACS, HOD, Prof. Chandrasekaran and SSSIHL Registrar, Dr. Naren Ramji. Nothing in what the VC or Director, PSN campus wrote reflects the slightest gratitude for the dedicated free service of over 9 years that I have performed in DMACS, SSSIHL where, due to my international software industry experience of over 18 years, I have been instrumental in significantly improving the practice of software development. Perhaps they want to protect SSSIHL records which may have been submitted to UGC by the Registrar or Vice-chancellor's office where I may have been designated as a "Teaching Assistant" possibly to increase the faculty count ("Visiting faculty" or "Honorary Staff" does not count as regular faculty, I believe) and show a better picture to UGC (UGC gives Grant money to SSSIHL).

Perhaps they feel that as a large institution they can smother me who is just one individual and get away by just bulldozing me.

Well, I am willing to fight this to the finish, no matter what!

I think I need to indicate to SSSIHL administration how serious I am in my quest for JUSTICE. I plan to write in my reminder to Director, PSN campus in the first few days of June that if SSSIHL does not give me my truthful service record with designations that the Principal, SSSIHL campus gave me thereby giving SSSIHL administration (Registrar/VC's office) room to claim (FALSELY) that my designation was a "Teaching Assistant", then I will seriously consider pressing legal charges of Identity Theft and Defamation against them by approaching the Chief Vigilance Officer, Ministry of Human Resource Development, Goverment of India and/or the honourable court at Penukonda. [For your convenience, here is the news link I had mailed earlier about a recent alleged Identity Theft case by an AP college :].

I think that may make SSSIHL administration stop taking a bulldozing stand and start treating me with respect.

Any suggestions/thoughts welcome.



--- end email ---

One person responded as follows:

Dear Ravi,


Pardon me for my comments. I am sorry to say that the way you have been dealing with this issue in a public manner as Swami's devotee does not seem appropriate. Swami's only wish for his students and his staff was that we should not bring down the Honor (Bad Name) of HIS Institutions (SSSIHL) come what may..

My only sincere request is that you try to resolve this grievance privately or just be happy of the Seva Dal designation and surrender to Bhagawan without any expectations in return...otherwise all the 8 yrs of sacrifice will go waste. Forget what all wrong others have done to you. Just see to it that you do not hurt others as per Swami's own words.

Once again, I apologize if my comment may have hurt you but this is my sincere request.

--- name snipped ---

This is how I responded to him:

Dear ---name snipped---,

Sai Ram!

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.

For me, it is more of an ideological issue. I feel that I must fight for 'Dharma'.

Of course, I too do not want SSSIHL to get a bad name outside. But some SSSIHL authorities are behaving so dictatorially that I am having no option but to use these unpleasant truths to stir them (internally and not in public) to see the reality and just give me my truthful service record.

"Teaching Assistant" designation will harm me in my future service activities. "Seva Dal" is no problem at all.

As I think these mails may be causing unpleasantness to you I am dropping your name from the mailing list (unless you want to receive the mails in which case you can let me know :)).

Thanks again for responding, sir.

Jai Sai Ram!



---- end email ----

[Ravi note (NOT part of email): The mail immediately prior to my response mail contributed to me changing my mind about what I had written earlier, "Well, I am willing to fight this to the finish, no matter what!". There was another factor too that significantly contributed to this change of mind. However, I don't think it is appropriate for me to mention it now, except to state that it added to the emotional stress and tension. With that added to the mix, I realized that given my already poor state of health, I could not fight the system all alone. BTW that's when I realized how important groupism and politics are even in spiritual movements :-). That led me to study current and past Indian and international politics :-). end Ravi note]

From: Ravi Iyer <>
Date: Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Subject: Service Record: I surrender on this matter to Swami's Will

Dear all,

Sai Ram!

After deep thought on the matter and some feedback from friends I have decided to surrender on this matter to Swami's Will.

I think these emails of mine are causing more disturbance than good. I had thought that in the post-samadhi period it will be appropriate to bring in some transparency in this matter by communicating with some colleagues and friends of mine. After all the project involved, Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini, was dear to Bhagavan as well as the students in DMACS who got involved with it. Now I realize that perhaps this approach is not appropriate for Parthi even now.

I have received a lot of love and guidance as well as stern correction looks from Bhagavan during my stint in SSSIHL. I am very, very deeply grateful to Him for that. In my heart I have to confess that I felt that Bhagavan will not approve of my confrontational approach. But I had felt so outraged about Bhagavan's dear 'computer' project being opposed by the 'computer' department of His own educational institution that I wanted to do something about it. Now I am trying to tune back to the inner Sai will and that message is very clear - Not to create a disturbance.

So basically I give up on this matter. If SSSIHL wants to send me my correct service record, fine. If not, I am not going to bother about it anymore.

Thanks for tolerating these mails of mine. Two gentlemen asked me to stop mailing on this matter. Rest of you, at least, were willing to receive mails from me on this. The process of pouring out my feelings on this matter has helped to heal me, to some extent. I thank you for the willingness that you have shown to receive these mails of mine.

If some of the mails have disturbed you please accept my sincere apologies.

Jai Sai Ram!


---- end email ----

[Ravi: I additionally wrote to two persons who had sent me dissenting mails]

Dear sir,

Your dissenting mails helped in me having a deep thought and a change of heart in this matter.

So I felt I should forward this mail to you.


Jai Sai Ram!

[Ravi: I have taken the liberty of presuming that the correspondents whose responses I have shared below in an anonymous way will not mind it, as it shows the nobility and goodness of them. I think this aspect being chronicled (recorded) may help readers to get a better understanding of such matters.]

One responded as follows:


May Swami bless you in all your endeavor. May he give you all the bliss, peace and strength to take his mission forward.

Jai Sairam

[I responded thanking him in some detail to which he added the following:]


You are welcome. One thing I have understood and keep reminding all the time is that Swami is the DOER... we are just the instruments. This is the way I accept everything good or bad that happens to me.. ----snip----
We cannot change others..we should leave that to him.. what is in our control is to change ourselves..our thoughts, words and deeds... this message is loud and clear to me. Also, everyone is God... even our so called enemies as related to this body..when all is god.. how can we be rude to or accuse others.

Just wanted to share some of feelings with you and how I use them to handle the various tests of God that all of us encounter. BE HAPPY, Keep Smiling and SERVE Lovingly without any expectations.
The other responded as follows:

Dear Ravi,

I am glad to see your mail.
Prof. Habbu in one of his talks gave a quote and it runs thus:
         Bear all, do nothing,
         hear all, say nothing
         do all, be nothing.
I believe that this is an excellent path for moving ahead spiritually.

You have left everything and why worry about thing that add nothing to you.
God has given enough to walk the spiritual path.
Single person, no encumbrances, enough to live independently without depending on somebody,
and the desire for spirituality and finally brought you to His lotus feet. Cash on these designations and qualifications and take whatever you do out side this as a 'time pass'.

May Bhagavan bless you with peace of mind and dispassion.

[I responded to the above mail as follows:]
Sai Ram sir!

I have learnt a lot about Swami in my interactions with you, sir. I look upon you as one of the revered elders of (SSSIHL).

I thank you, sir, for pulling me up when I was going out of line due to my mental state in this vexed matter. It, along with input from some others, made me see the "Sai" light in this matter.

I shall carefully bear in mind your very wise words of advise in this mail. You, sir, are a veteran of Swami's mission and I need to learn from you, sir.

Thank you so much, sir, for taking the time to write your very valuable words of spiritual advise to me. Thank you also, sir, for your prayers.

Jai Sai Ram!

[Ravi note (NOT part of email): The above gentleman (revered elder) had, in an earlier mail interaction on this matter, asked to not be sent mails on this topic in a curt way (if I recall correctly). That had cut me to the bone. So I was overjoyed to receive his response after I gave up the fight. I felt that his response confirmed that I did the correct thing in surrendering to Swami on this matter rather than fight it out. I think it would have been this great relief and joy at receiving his response, that led me to pepper my response with so many 'sir's :-). I mean, he is still a 'sir' to me (despite what I have written below) but in a normal response to him I would not have repeated it so many times.

And then, in what perhaps epitomizes the utter bewilderment & shock that Muddenahalli so called subtle body false belief created for so many of us Sai devotees who were associated with the Sai institutions in Puttaparthi / Prasanthi Nilayam, I came to know sometime in July 2014 that this person who I viewed as a revered elder, not only believed in this so called subtle body involving Sri Madhusudhan Naidu, the so called communicator, and Sri B.N. Narasimhamurthy, the main man behind so called subtle body, but also started promoting it!!! [It was in May/June 2014 that the Sai devotee community in Puttaparthi came to know PUBLICLY about this so called communicator & subtle body business. I also came to know about it only then. In second half of 2011 itself I had heard of claims of dream instructions from Swami to Sri Narasimhamurthy but that's it; no so called subtle body stuff.]

Oh! What a shock I got when I saw that this revered elder is promoting this Muddenahalli so called subtle body belief! When I discussed the matter with another person who was formerly associated with a Prasanthi Nilayam Sai institution, he too was in shock. We felt that if this person (revered elder) believes in it then 'everybody' (i.e. many Sai university alumni and other Sai devotees) will start believing in it too. end Ravi note]

[Ravi: Some other mail responses are given below]

Sai Ram sir,
        That's great right decision. Just by getting a service record, you are not going to benefit in any way, maybe financially (which you are not interested) or academically or spiritually too, you will be losing your peace and everything. As a Sadhaka, it is better to do your Sadhana and do the work as worship. That is what Swami wants, I feel. Sorry, if you feel it is like some discourse or advice.
Dear Sir,
I should be the last person to give comment on your decision --- snip --- and pardon my audacity to say the following.


with regards and respects,
[This is from a USA based friend of mine (not Sai devotee)]

Dear Ravi,

It is neither tolerance nor indifference that I did not write back. The fact is that just as you, I am also learning my way in this complex world. Some things that I can easily accept / ignore, I find people putting in a lot of energy into it. For example, [name-snipped] lied under oath. Now for the entire nation it was a big issue - politically, constitutionally, and morally. From my perspective, I felt it was ridiculous to waste nation's money for it. Was the "crime" so bad that one had to be punished at all cost? For many it was. For me it was meaningless because the whole issue was mixed with political aspects also. And what did finally they achieved? He was not impeached. What would they have achieved if they had indeed impeached him? Another such example was about when you became vocal when the supreme court opined about the ills of caste system. Yes, the judges went too far. But I asked myself if their opinion mattered to the masses. In a nation where people die of hunger, it made no sense what the supreme court did or did not think. But for others, it was still a serious matter. And I can understand it though not agree with it.

That said, the issues you were dealing had two aspects - one very personal and the other a much larger and that is of sense of justice. It takes a lot of courage to fight and especially in Indian environment. I commend you for that. People avoid such fights because they are almost sure of losing it. You decided to pick the pen because the injustice was too much for you to ignore or accept. It is from these "small" / "insignificant" looking injustices that great leaders and dons emerge. Good does not come out of nothing - in fact a lot of bad gets spilled here and there. Now does this mean that I am in agreement with your thoughts or would do what you did? Not really. From my perspective, if I start lecturing in a university does not imply that I am a "teacher" let alone a good "teacher". Similarly, whether they call me "Principal" or an "Assistant Lecturer" don't really make me one. I am who I am. Not out of arrogance. But a mere fact. I am an ordinary person. And I can live with that. This doesn't mean that I don't feel the pain when I don't get the recognition I "deserve". I can't get what is not mine. They can't take away what is not theirs. This helps me decide what do I want to do - fight or find greener pastures or recognize it as a bread earning means and nothing more and move on.

Anyway, whatever you decide to do --- I wish you the very best. Life is so complex - I find it more interesting and livable when I stop analyzing and start living!

Parts of my response to the above mail are given below:

[About his view of attempts to impeach name-snipped:] Very interesting example. I am afraid I fall in the group of people who agree with measures to keep people in power accountable and not abusing their power. I do not know the details about the particular extent to which the US went in this case and so I cannot comment any further on it.

[About his view of caste system related SC matter:] Once again my mind-set is different. I feel that I am now in a position to put out my opinion on this to a set of friends and do so. Perhaps it may not matter eventually. Perhaps it may matter that the complex caste issue aspect is discussed. Note that such opinion expressed in public influences the laws that get enacted by legislature and how these laws get interpreted by courts.

[About his view of fighting for justice:] Very well expressed words, brother. For me, it was an ideological issue.

[About why I raised my designation related service record issue:] I raised it for multiple reasons:

a) To hit back at them for how students' and my interest in a project that had the direct blessings of Swami got rather brutally suppressed using bureaucratic traps and that too by having breaches of academic procedure. I felt that I had to make this statement to them.

b) For my future service activity for Indian CS & IT students, my bio-data may come under scrutiny. For example, IIT Madras may be willing to consider me as a subject expert for C++ if I am shown as Honorary Staff/Visiting Faculty in my stint in DMACS, SSSIHL. But if I am shown as Teaching Assistant then IIT Madras may reject me.

c) For my future interaction with MHRD & AICTE in Indian CS & IT academic reform efforts they too may be willing to consider my view if am shown as Honorary Staff/Visiting Faculty. TA is bottom rung in academia and if my DMACS record is shown as TA to AICTE guys they will just reject my views as that of a very junior person.
Thanks for your best wishes, [name-snipped].
dear Mr Iyer,
Sai Ram!
You are such a sensitive man.
This decision of yours is positive.
Put this behind you.
Get ahead.
Wishing you more of Sai Grace,
Happy to note that you got some closure "inside" if not "outside". :) Hope the "outside" also comes soon.
[This is from a non Sai devotee friend of mine]
---snip ---
From your mails, I tried summarizing the issues:

1) You need a letter/documentation that you were visiting faculty for 9 years. This should be consistently conveyed to all references from external folks.
2) Computer project you are involved with
3) unhappy with treatment from certain folks.

With the third one being only third, you should concentrate on getting the first right. By rubbing folks the wrong way, you jeopardize your chances of getting the designation issue sorted out. I am not suggesting that you pay bribes or conduct any immoral act, but pampering the ego of someone to get your things right,  will by no means make you small. It will leave you with enough energies to focus on your main agenda.

If your main agenda is to focus on how power corrupts, then by all means fight for your rights. But if its something else, get the irritant out of the way, without compromising on your moral stand. Don't let emotions get in the way of your main agenda for larger goals.

Well this two bit, is my opinion. I am not suggesting for a moment, that this is the only right way or otherwise. As they say, its very easy to give advice. I am sure you have to fight a lot more demons while facing the issue. Happy to help in any manner..

Dear Sir,
I can clearly see you are on the right path. Bhagavan will guide you definitely to the right goal as He is known for not giving up on His devotees. Continue to pay more attention to the inner voice of Swami and be not bothered about the external world masala that goes on everyday which is just a drama ! You know it very well.

Sairam and regards
---- end email responses --------------

Here's my email to the VC closing the matter:

From: Ravi Iyer <>
To: Vice-Chancellor SSSIHL <>
Date: Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Subject: Service Record Matter: I surrender to Swami's Will

Dear Respected Vice-Chancellor sir,

Sai Ram sir!

After deep thought on the matter and some feedback from Puttaparthi Sai community elders/friends I have decided to surrender on this designation and service record matter to Swami's Will.

As I had felt mentally disturbed over this matter I was discussing it over email with my friends & relatives some of whom (friends) are in the Sai community in Parthi. Their responses and support have gone a long way in allowing me to handle my mental disturbance on this matter. Some of the Sai community friends advised me to drop my 'confrontational' approach. I have taken their advise to heart.

I have received a lot of love and guidance as well as stern correction looks from Bhagavan during my stint in SSSIHL. I am very, very deeply grateful to Him for that. In my heart I have to confess that I felt that Bhagavan will not approve of my confrontational approach. But I had felt so outraged about Bhagavan's dear 'computer' project being opposed by the 'computer' department of His own educational institution that I wanted to do something about it. Now I am trying to tune back to the inner Sai will and that message is very clear - Not to create a disturbance.

So, sir, I have decided as follows. I will go by the designations given to me by the Principal, PSN campus, SSSIHL and use that whenever required in my communications with MHRD, AICTE, IIT Madras (NPTEL), international CS/IT academic publications, international academic institutions etc. A TA (Teaching Assistant) designation will be considered to be a very junior designation which may, in all probability, result in almost any academic institution or publication, national or international, treat my views as that of a very junior person. So the only possibility of conflict with SSSIHL I see now is if SSSIHL reports my designation during my years of service at DMACS, SSSIHL as Teaching Assistant to any possible appropriate future requests made to it, say by MHRD, AICTE, international academic institutions etc. I pray earnestly to Bhagavan that such a conflict does not arise.

Sir, I do not want this matter to come in the way of the dedicated and hard working administrators of SSSIHL in performing their wonderful services to Bhagavan's educational mission. If you want a formal letter from me withdrawing my previous signed letter to you & Director, PSN campus, please let me know. I will be sending a similar email separately to Director, PSN campus, CC Ex-principal PSN campus shortly.

I pray to Bhagavan to continue showering His Grace on all of you respected current and past administrators of SSSIHL in Bhagavan's mission of spreading Sathya, Dharma, Shanti and Prema in the world.

Jai Sai Ram!


Ravi S. Iyer
Software Consultant

--- rest of signature snipped ---
--- end email ---

[Ravi note (NOT part of email): There was no official/unofficial response from the VC to me on this. end Ravi note]

I forwarded the above mail to the forty contacts & ten or so of my family & friends (individually to some to bring some personal contact aspect to the mail) with the following typical text:

Sai Ram!

I felt it appropriate to share the final mail I wrote to Respected VC sir on May 29th, surrendering to Swami's Will, with you. With this I think I have completely removed the "confrontational" approach in this matter but have ensured that my professional reputation is protected.

I hope my previous unsolicited mails to you on this topic did not disturb you.

Jai Sai Ram!

----------- end main email content -------------

I got some responses over the next few days most of which are given below:

Dear are right. Why fight Swami's will? It's easier to surrender to it !
Dear Sir
I fully understand the seriousness of the issue and appreciate the way you have handled it. Well, I second your opinion that it is better to leave it to Swami for sorting this issue and I am sure HE will do it at the right time and in the right way. ---snip---
I am sure HE will guide you ...
[Ravi: This is from a friend who is associated with a spiritual institution but not associated with Sai following.]
Dear Ravi,

---snip ---
 Firstly, it is great achievement on your part that you have sensitivity to recognize the stern "correctional" look from Swami. I can bet, many (including His devotees) won't have developed that kind of sensitivity. It is sign of real spiritual development.

Secondly, it was disappointing to know that administrators of Swami's own educational mission appear to be unfair to His own devotees. I can think that Swami must have given a correctional look to them as well, but (they) failed to recognize it. Your dilemma was genuine. I would have done the same you had done meaning, bringing it to their attention about the designation issue.

Thirdly, this whole saga re-enforces the conventional understanding that "free" in this world doesn't get its fair recognition/value. Just like free air/water/sunlight/functioning-of-body/free-keeping-karma-records etc. don't get realized by common folks. You are doing this "free" service following your own conviction, so indeed it has value to yourself. It must be giving satisfaction to you. So, there is internal value. But, for the external world, for them this "free" has no value, it seems. For students, it is indifferent as they pay their fees regardless of who is teaching - a staff or a volunteer. For the administrator, actually there is monetary benefit of the free service. But, it looks like they are ignoring your free service, that's why I said it appears that "free" appears to have no value.

[Ravi: Small clarification here is that there is no tuition fee for students in the Sai university (though, I believe, there is a nominal hostel mess fee).]

Parts of my response mail to him are given below:

[About correctional look:] Very well said, name-snipped. Once you accept somebody as Guru then you need to accept his "correctional" looks and talks. Otherwise there is no point in accepting that person as a Guru. Yes, there may be possibility of slight debate here and there which a Guru accepts when presented with the right humble attitude.
[About Swami giving correctional look to administrators of His educational mission:] If Swami were in His physical body this problem would not have occurred as He would have intervened. The project involved was His latest pet project, a free online school educational portal which will make His educational system available free to any school.

Once He gave up His body there was a HUGE power vacuum at the top. Some top administrators including the Vice-Chancellor, in my considered opinion, become virtual dictators. That effect perhaps flowed down with others like the Registrar and DMACS HOD also becoming power-crazy. Power is a horrifyingly corrupting thing if there is no system of checks and balances. I think it can affect any human being including me.

I think my problem is part of the transition that is occurring in Puttaparthi now. Slowly administrators are realizing that now Govt. machinery is the power that they need to be afraid of. Earlier the govt. machinery would keep off - Swami's name itself was so powerful.

Perhaps my case will make SSSIHL administrators become more careful in future.
[About my dilemma being genuine:] It is a simple and straightforward issue, isn't it? It is just that some of these guys have lived in such an insulated from the real world environment for so long that they got surprised by me aggressively asking for resolution of the designation matter.
[About free service not getting recognition/value:] I think you are very right. While some people do recognize and value the free service, the system tends to take them for granted.
Dear Sir

Sai Ram. This is to inform you that the mails that you sent previously did not disturb me in anyway. I took it as a brother sharing his trials and tribulations with another brother.

As it is said "Troubles when shared are divided and Joys when shared are multiplied". After all we should share our feelings at such times with our near and dear ones, which would definitely reduce our burden to some extent.

At a time when we cannot physically discuss this matter with Swami by way of writing a letter or telling Swami directly the best thing any one can do is discuss it with near and dear ones. It is in a very great extent far far better than keeping it within ourselves, which can spoil our mental and physical health.

In this matter I could not help but remain a Silent Listener. And I would be very happy, as a brother, to receive any mail from you any time in the future.
Dear Sir,
I could completely understand your feelings and I was not disturbed by these emails.
Sorry, I could find out any solution or make you feel better.
Am thankful that you have kept me aware of the injustice - but I really do not know how to help you.
Also I feel that you have taken the right decision to surrender this at His Lotus Feet and be at peace.
When it is beyond us to fight injustice, let the Lord take over.

Part of my response to the above mail is given below:
[About he not being able to find any solution:] No problem, brother. It is not in your hands.
[About him being thankful that I kept him aware of the injustice:] One of the reasons why I mailed this issue to many friends and colleagues in the system here, is that tomorrow it might happen to anybody else. Being aware of how things are can help in preventing falling into such difficult situations.

---snip-- the academic system almost completely ignores industry expertise when it comes to promotions and respect accorded. Academia is a PhD club. Being a non PhD [one needs] to be on [one's] guard against that fact being used against [one] in any conflicts.
I felt I need to fight Asathya and Adharma to the extent I can, without causing too much disturbance to the system. When it came to a point where it was threatening to become very disturbing I decide to back out and surrender to Swami's Will.

Some persons chose to quietly part ways. Perhaps they were scared of any negative reaction from administrators if they spoke up.

I felt that I am in a position to speak up as they really cannot do anything to me in terms of money or room. I feel me having spoken up would help in reducing such gross abuse of others in SSSIHL in future. In that sense I behaved in a similar way that I have in the past when leaving a software company so that the top bosses would get to know my view of the (problems) in an exit interview.
Dear Ravi sir,
Please accept my sincere apologies for not replying earlier. ...

I think you have acted in a noble manner befitting a person who is ripe in spiritual sense. This i am saying [Ravi: not?] to please you in any manner, but i am learning to take a leaf or two out of your life in the little interaction i have had the fortune to be associated with you.

Please always find me with u. OFcourse, Ultimately , HE is there for us ALWAYS....
My response to the above mail:
Dear brother ---name snipped---,


Thank you so much for your touching mail. It is support from brothers like you that makes living in Parthi wonderful inspite of some 'tests' :).

Jai Sairam!

Warm Regards

[The last mail above was sent on 27th June 2012]
== end mail exchanges related to my service record and record tampering matter ====

As I composed this post I got the opportunity to look upon these mails with the benefit of hindsight, over three years down the line, and with it being nearly a year since Shashidhara Prasad stepped down as VC of the Sai university. It is clear to me now that it was the don't question openly, save HONOUR of SSSIHL, type of attitude that allowed Narasimhamurthy and Shashidhara Prasad to have such powerful influence over SSSIHL when they believed in so called subtle body of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, that was opposed by the official Sai trust & orgn. All the people who are involved with SSSIHL in significant positions KNOW what happened. But there is SILENCE publicly as they don't want the HONOUR of SSSIHL to suffer.

But today things have come to such a SORRY PASS that the same vice-chancellor Shashidhara Prasad is OPENLY SUPPORTING so called communicator of so called subtle body, Sai university alumnus Madhusudhan Rao Naidu and the main man of Muddenahalli subtle body FALSE BELIEF, Sri B.N. Narasimhamurthy, former warden of the Sai university. And these actions are now a SERIOUS DIVISIVE THREAT to the Sathya Sai movement INTERNATIONALLY. They are PUBLICLY saying things like Swami is saying that Kali Yuga will end (has ended) on 23rd Oct. 2015, and which is treated as truth by many Sai devotees!!! Are they not bringing DISHONOUR to both SSSIHL (Sai university) and Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba??? Who is saving SSSIHL HONOUR now??? Who is saving Sai devotee HONOUR now???

It is my considered opinion now that if Shashidhara Prasad's belief in Muddenahalli so called subtle body and his support for Narasimhamurthy, in direct conflict with Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust view of the matter, had been PUBLICLY known in 2011-12 itself, then this Muddenahalli DRAMA could have been nipped in the bud.

I decided to put up this post publicly now as I think the Sai fraternity needs to KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED in the Sai university after Mahasamadhi under Shashidhara Prasad's tenure as VC. This post shares my bad experience with the Sai university administrators after Mahasamadhi. But there are far more important questions that remain unanswered in the eyes of the Sai fraternity. Why were veteran Sai university faculty like Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju and Prof. Krupanidhi treated so badly that they essentially, like me, parted ways with the Sai university? Because we asked questions when directives/instructions were given us that we felt are not in keeping with Bhagavan's vision for the Sai university and Bhagavan's instructions/teachings for Sai devotees? What was the role of Sri B.N. Narasimhamurthy and his subtle body/dream instructions in this matter? Were top administrators of SSSIHL taking advise/orders from Sri B.N. Narasimhamurthy then?

I request the kind indulgence of readers for blowing my own bugle a bit (in terms of notional money loss). But I felt that it is necessary for me to do so in the context of this post and the post-Mahasamadhi Prasanthi Nilayam/Puttaparthi environment. As everything is measured by money nowadays I thought it appropriate to mention that, from a calculation point of view, my NOTIONAL (money) loss based on my earning levels as an international software consultant in Mumbai, during my FREE SERVICE period in the Sai university from Jan. 2003 to Mar. 2012, comes to Rs 1.5 to Rs. 2 crores [At 66 Rs to 1 US Dollar, that is around 225,000 USD to 300,000 USD].

But I do not view it that way. I wanted spiritual guidance. How much did Swami charge me for his love and spiritual guidance? Nothing at all!

I am very, very deeply grateful that Bhagavan gave me an opportunity to serve Him and to receive some DIRECT love & spiritual guidance from him, along with lots of INDIRECT spiritual guidance and love from Sai Satsang (bhajan, song, discourse, discussions etc.) That love & spiritual guidance is PRICELESS!!!

The associated Facebook post was shared by Terry Reis Kennedy here:

I have given below two comments of mine (slightly edited) on that shared post in response to some other comments:

The message of "bear all and do nothing" was sent to me in end May/early June 2012, at which time, while I knew from the Sai university grapevine that former VC Shashidhar Prasad was believing in claimed Swami dream instructions supposedly received by Narasimhamurthy, I did not have any evidence/proof for it. I had not heard much about Madhusudhan Naidu or anything about so called subtle body at that time. The only thing I recall is somebody telling me something about Madhusudhan Naidu, who I did not know about then but who is the elder brother of a former student and later junior faculty colleague of mine in the Dept. of Maths & Comp. Science, having visions of Swami. I did not pay much attention to that, as so many people were claiming that sort of stuff then in the Sai fraternity worldwide.

Regarding the "bear all and do nothing" teaching, today I agree with your views that it was a wrong approach and wrong advice for the elder to have given me. But back then it was a traumatic period for me with nobody from the Sai university daring to get involved in my matter - I honestly felt that it was a reign of fear/terror in the Sai university; not physically but in terms of action being taken by administrative authorities against anybody who dares to question them. I mean, when nobody in the Sai university came to Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju's aid when he was being targeted by Sai university administrators, who was I for them to stick their neck out for me?

Given the loneliness and the negative impact on my health resulting from my fight then (May/June 2012) against these Sai university administrators, I think it was WISE for me to have stepped back from the fight. It was a situation where the saying, 'He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day' applied, IMHO. So now, around three and a half years after that fight, I am in a position to share that matter with interested persons from the Sai fraternity who want to know what really happened in the Sai university under the tenure of former VC, Shashidhar Prasad after Bhagavan's Mahasamadhi. I have revealed the bits that I know. But it is people who were in important administrative positions in the Sai university in the period from Swami's Mahasamadhi till Nov. 2014 when Shashidhar Prasad stepped down as VC, who will surely KNOW MUCH MORE DETAILS. So far, they are all SILENT.

Regarding the name of the elder, I do not feel it appropriate to reveal it. I can understand it if you will be angry with me but I cannot do that. I am grateful to the elder for what he shared with me about Bhagavan which helped me in my spiritual journey and getting some understanding of Bhagavan at physical form level and also about understanding Parthi life & environment. He was also one of the nicest and politest guys in the Sai university Prasanthi Nilayam campus. What a contrast he was to some of the later arrogant bully type Sai university administrators! It is very, very unfortunate that he got trapped & deluded by Madhusudhan Naidu and Narasimhamurthy. I earnestly pray to Bhagavan that He show this revered elder the correct path forward and lead him back from Muddenahalli false belief to the TRUE spiritual base of Prasanthi Nilayam and stay anchored in this TRUE spiritual base of Prasanthi Nilayam.
I should also add that the elder is currently not at the forefront in promoting Muddenahalli false belief. That is another reason why I feel I need not reveal his name. But in July 2014 and some months following it, he certainly was one of the promoters of Muddenahalli false belief.

Update on 3rd May 2016

Here are some more evidence documents:

Above pic: My identity Cards issued by Principal, Prasanthi Nilayam campus, Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning (note that I have blanked out the face part in the Identity card pics).

Above pic has the official approval granted to me by the Registrar (Naren Ramji) to interact with Mandir SSSVV (Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini) team and with TCS (Tata Consultancy Services) SSSVV team.

Here's Dr. Chandrasekaran's email to me where he becomes power-crazy & power-abusive and commits a breach of academic procedure by acting as if he is superior to the Vice-chancellor and Registrar of the Sai university, and overrides the Registrar's above approval letter to me:

[To see a magnified version of the above pic use mouse right-click and open in new tab/window. Then click to zoom.]

Dr. Chandrasekaran has the audacity to copy the letter to the Vice-chancellor and the Registrar, who I am very sorry to say, seem to have got bullied by Dr. Chandrasekaran. I wonder why they were afraid of him!!! Perhaps they felt and accepted that HOD Chandrasekaran was superior to vice-chancellor and Registrar of Sai university!!!

Given below is a screenshot followed by the text of my email parting shot to the Registrar, Naren Ramji, copy to Dr. Chandrasekaran and Prasanthi Nilayam campus director, Sudhir Bhaskar, pointing out to them the breach of academic procedure done by Dr. Chandrasekaran:

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Subject: A Breach of Academic Procedure by DMACS HOD
[From] Ravi Iyer <> Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:11 PM
To: "Registrar, Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning" <>
Cc: "Prof. A Sudhir Bhaskar FMAC, SSSIHL" <>, "Prof. V Chandrasekaran DMACS, SSSIHL" <>


The Registrar, SSSIHL

CC: Director of PSN campus, SSSIHL; HOD DMACS, SSSIHL

Dear Dr. Ramji,

Sai Ram!

I draw your attention to the, as per my opinion, breach of academic procedure as described below by current HOD, DMACS. I have also mentioned the remedial action I will be taking.

Please note that I am doing this in the interest of the voiceless students & parents of those students in DMACS, SSSIHL who may be interested in IT (Information Technology) software work like some aspects of the Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini project [it has CS (Computer Science) aspects too]. I have no intention to create trouble for DMACS, SSSIHL. However, if DMACS HOD does not agree with the remedial action I will be taking OR harasses me OR persecutes me in ANY WAY, I may have to seriously consider the option of praying intensely to Bhagavan and seeking His Inner Guidance on whether I should approach the Chief Vigilance Officer, Ministry of Human Resource Development [Smt. Radha Chauhan, Joint Secretary (CVO & PG),, Tel.: 011-23388632] for resolution of this matter. Please note that I have already had some contact with the MHRD, CVO & PG's office in relation to my Indian CS/IT academic reform activism efforts. This interaction has resulted in my Indian CS/IT academic reform grievance & suggested solutions being forwarded to Shri R.P. Sisodia, Joint Secretary UGC,, & Shri Ashok Thakur, Spl. Secretary Technical Education,

I deeply pray to Bhagavan that this mail of mine be taken in the "right" spirit by its recipients. The intention is to ensure that DMACS HOD respects and follows UGC/AICTE norms and does not interfere in any IT work including some aspects of the Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini project that SSSIHL higher authorities have permitted me to associate with.

In my considered opinion, DMACS HOD committed a breach of academic procedure by sending me a mail on August 11, 2011, withdrawing "all previous approvals" and advising me to "stop all your communications/discussions (verbal and written) direct with TCS and any other outside parties on behalf of SSSIHL". Please see Attachment1- Norms.pdf attached to this mail.

Please see Attachment2-Approval.jpg to view the "official approval" from you, the Registrar, SSSIHL, authorizing me to interact with Mandir SSSVV team and TCS SSSVV team.

At the time I received the Attachment1-Norms.pdf mail, as a retired-from-commercial-work software industry professional offering FREE SEVA to SSSIHL for over 8 long years, I was rather blissfully ignorant about UGC/AICTE rules and regulations regarding a person playing a "Visiting Faculty" role and went more by ORAL advise given to me by SSSIHL administrative authorities and some "regular" faculty colleagues. Now I have quite some knowledge about UGC/AICTE rules & regulations and the constitutional/legal authority vested in MHRD to oversee UGC, AICTE and educational institutions regulated by them. I also sought the advise of experienced academics on this matter.

Now my understanding is that standard academic procedure requires the Registrar to send the formal intimation to approve or withdraw approval for interaction and NOT the head of a department. DMACS, HOD, perhaps due to his opposition to students of DMACS getting associated with the Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini project, in my opinion, committed a breach of academic procedure by sending me an email to me withdrawing the approval granted by you, the Registrar, SSSIHL, and wrongly advised me to stop interaction with "TCS and any other outside parties on behalf of SSSIHL". The correct procedure would have been for DMACS HOD to have approached higher SSSIHL administrative authority(ies) and request him/them to instruct the Registrar, SSSIHL to send me such a letter. The Registrar (and higher administrative authorities) have full powers to withdraw/cancel any approvals for interaction with outside agencies and even terminate my "visiting faculty" status with zero notice period and without giving any reason BUT NOT THE DMACS HOD.

Remedial Action: I will treat Attachment1-Norms.pdf mail from DMACS, HOD as NULL AND VOID. What is in effect under UGC norms is the approval granted by the Registrar, Attachment2-Approval.jpg. Further, I will treat as NULL AND VOID any past oral/mail responses from me to Attachment1-Norms.pdf mail from DMACS, HOD. I will also ignore (treat as NULL AND VOID) any ORAL instructions that were given to me by ANY administrative authority of SSSIHL regarding this matter. If SSSIHL administration wants to withdraw the approval granted by Attachment2-Approval.jpg then I kindly request you, the Registrar, SSSIHL or higher SSSIHL administrative authority to send me an appropriate letter by email to or postal letter to my home-office address given at the bottom of this email.

Further, please note that I do not plan to use the SSSIHL email id kindly allotted to me by SSSIHL authorities to communicate with TCS SSSVV team or Mandir SSSVV team. If and when I do communicate with them I will be using a mail id other than the SSSIHL email id allotted to me.

If I do not receive any response from you, the Registrar, SSSIHL, in a week's time then I will presume that you have no objection to what I have written above. On the other hand, if you do agree with DMACS HOD's views or have some third view on the matter then, to make SSSIHL administration's stand clear on this matter, I advise you to send me an official communication to that effect by email to or postal letter to my home-office address given at the bottom of this email.

Ravi S. Iyer
A 'Seva Dal' Physically Blessed by Bhagavan Himself to Serve in His Mission
Software Consultant
---address snipped ---
web: (hosted at,
A Not-For-Profit Effort,
Indian CS & IT Academic Reform Activism
Service to Society is Service to God

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Of course, they had no suitable response to my letter, except a MAD attempt by Sai university Registrar, Naren Ramji, to bully me, after having requested me "With Love" over email to come to his office, at which I told him that I am terminating my relationship with SSSIHL and (immediately afterwards) walked out of his office (mentioned earlier in this post).

Readers may want to see the following blog posts:

1) Refuting Mervyn Hughes' latest attacks on me,, dated April 12th 2016.

2) Mervyn Hughes says he is attacking me to teach me how it hurts when I criticize others; Clarification on my Systems Manager role,, dated April 14th, 2016.

3) Mervyn Hughes writes that he has deleted all posts relating to me, and will not write posts about me,, dated April 16th 2016.

23rd Aug. 2016: Update copy-pasted from part of my blog post, About me not being Ph.D. and yet teaching lab. courses and being tech. consultant in the Sai university in the past,, dated Aug. 20th 2016.

Given below is a pic of page 1 of my file copy of the letter I gave to Bhagavan in end 2002/early 2003, requesting for Honorary Seva at Prasanthi Nilayam. Swami graciously accepted the letter during Darshan (I had to use token lines Darshan then as I was not staff) after testing me for some time and making me pray intensely to Him to accept the letter. [Update on 21st Aug. 2016: I now realize that I tried to give this letter to Bhagavan for a few days but it was not accepted. The copy of the letter that Bhagavan accepted is given in later on in this post.] [To see documents in pics below in full resolution, use mouse right-click followed by Open in new tab/window.]

Here's pic of page 2 of the letter:

And here's the format of general letter I used for formal application for Honorary Seva at various PN institutions (including Sai university) then (end 2002):

In response to a comment on associated Facebook post of mine,, "Relax buddy don't stress Pls", I (Ravi) wrote:
--Name-snipped--, didn't get the stress part bro. I am sharing all this stuff as I feel that it may help other people who are in similar shoes to what I was in 2002 when I was wanting to move from regular life to ashram life. It is more of a chronicling of what happened in my journey rather than a stressed out response.

Here's a small extract from an older blog post of mine that deals with Bhagavan testing me for some days before accepting my letter to him (file copy given in the first and second pic in above pics), Some people felt more connected to Shirdi Sai than Sathya Sai; Impact on followers is a big legacy of a spiritual master,, dated July 2015.

I should also add that it was my personal experience, in late 2002 or early 2003, when I was not staff and having darshan of Swami along with the general public (in Sai Kulwant Hall, Prasanthi Nilayam/Puttaparthi), that intense prayer to Swami, resulted in Swami taking special notice of me by looking at me for some time and accepting my letter even though I was seated two or three rows behind the front row. Whereas, in the earlier weeks when I was regularly attending Darshan, sometimes with a front row seat and clearly holding my letter in my folded palms for him to see, he would not only avoid taking the letter but either not look at me or just cast a passing glance at me.

My view of this experience was that earlier I was not praying hard or praying intensely to him and so, even if I was seated in the front row, he did not show much interest in me. But when I prayed intensely, Swami's heart melted and he responded to me. It was almost as if Swami was teaching me that if I wanted God to respond to my prayer, the prayer MUST BE intense and from the bottom of one's heart/being, and not casual.
--- end extract from my blog post mentioned earlier ---

Found a stapled set of papers related to my application to SSSIHL in Nov/Dec 2002 and my Seva (FREE SERVICE) being accepted officially in Jan. 2003, with informal designation as Systems Manager and formal designation as Honorary Staff. One important difference in these papers dated on or after 26th Nov. 2002 as compared to what I have provided earlier in this post, dated Oct. 2002, is that I have omitted a request for accommodation if possible. If I recall correctly, there were two reasons for this:
a) I had found a small room (suitable for sadhaka/spiritual aspirant type person) in outside ashram Puttaparthi (on Samadhi Ist Cross road) for something like Rs. 600/- a month (if I recall correctly) and would have been taking South Indian canteen food (Rs. 6/- for a meal then, if I recall correctly). I would have found that all this was affordable with my budget and so I did not need support from the ashram for the same.
b) I was told that the chances of my application for Seva being considered positively was much higher if I did not mention any need for accommodation or other support (e.g. free coupons for food). I would have been very keen to become staff as then I would have the PRICELESS and BIG PRIVILEGE of sitting in the University staff allocated part of Kulwant Hall, and have darshan of Bhagavan from a very close range, every day that Bhagavan was in Puttaparthi and I was in Kulwant Hall when he was giving Darshan (or attending some program in Sai Kulwant Hall)!

Here's the earliest (date wise) paper in that set: Copy of my application to the Vice-chancellor, SSSIHL dated 26th Nov. 2002, given to Prof. G.V. Prabhakar Rao (to be given to appropriate person in SSSIHL)

Copy of my letter to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, dated 27th Nov. 2002, seeking his blessings for the application I had made on 26th Nov. 2002 to AI laboratory, DMACS, SSSIHL.

The last two sentences of the application were, "I will consider myself extremely blessed if You accept my Seva for the AI laboratory, Dept. of Mathematics & Computer Science, SSSIHL. I earnestly pray to You to consider my application, and if You feel that I will be suitable for Seva there, then please grant me this opportunity of serving You."

Bhagavan accepted this letter on my intense prayer to Him to accept this letter, around November end (a few days later perhaps) according to the jotting I have made on the copy of the letter.

Copy of page 1 of application for Seva in the AI lab., DMACS, SSSIHL given to Prof. C.J.M. Rao, then Head of Department (HOD), DMACS, SSSIHL on 25th December 2002. Note that Prof. G.V. Prabahakar Rao was associated with the AI lab which was the software lab. for DMACS. He was the key person in DMACS who interviewed me and assessed my software development capability. Later I came to know that he is a PhD in Mathematics from an IIT (Madras, perhaps) who moved to the field of Computer Science from Mathematics. Prof. C.J.M. Rao, I later learned was also a PhD in Mathematics from an IIT (Madras, perhaps but am not sure) who was focused on Mathematics and did NOT associate much with the software lab. I mean, he was not viewed as having moved to Computer Science field. He was viewed primarily as a Mathematician and not a Computer scientist.

Copy of page 2 of above application.

Copy of letter from Dr. A.V. Lakshminarasimhmam, Registrar of SSSIHL, dated 28th January 2003, to DMACS HOD, Prof. C.J.M. Rao, copy to Principal, Prasanthi Nilayam campus (Prof. U.S. Rao was principal of PN campus then) informing him (HOD) that he (Registrar) was directed to inform him (HOD) that he has been permitted to utilize my services. Quite bureaucratic but that's how SSSIHL Administrative block was (and perhaps still is)! The presumption was that the vice-chancellor was the person who directed the Registrar to pass this information on to the HOD (who then passed a copy of the letter to me) and principal, PN campus. BTW the vice-chancellor then, if I recall correctly, was Shri S.V. Giri (not an academic but a distinguished Indian govt. official from the IAS cadre) who later became a trustee of Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust. I also clearly recall being told by people in the know then (University staff) that my photo and application were shown by the vice-chancellor Shri S.V. Giri to Bhagavan (chancellor of SSSIHL then) in the interview room. I was told that Bhagavan gave his nod to accept my services in the university.

A handwritten letter by Prof. C.J.M. Rao, HOD, DMACS to me dated 29th Jan. 2003, detailing my role in AI Lab., DMACS. He wrote the designation (informal designation) as Systems Manager. He put down the initials of two staff in DMACS then, RS (Raghunatha Sarma) and BKM (B. Krishnamoorthy) and orally told me that they will assist me. The handwritten letter only has their initials. While my application to DMACS emphasised my software development expertise part, this letter emphasised the management of AI Lab. part (heavy responsibility actually) but also clearly mentioned software lab. courses and M.Tech. projects. ... In a short period of time (some months) after I started doing this role, it became clear to me that Systems Manager was a very heavy responsibility role with accountability for Assets in the AI Lab and maintenance of Asset Register and Consumable Stocks register. Such accountability surely could not be given to somebody who was not a regular employee. I mean, the vice-chancellor and other top administrative authorities would want an accountable person whom they could hold responsible for the assets of the AI lab, and not a volunteer service person like me. ... Further, in June 2003, if I recall correctly, Dr. K.S. Sridharan took over as HOD from Prof. C.J.M. Rao. I don't think Dr. Sridharan was even passed on any copy of this informal role note given to me by Prof. C.J.M. Rao. Now Dr. Sridharan had done his PhD in Electrical engineering from Anna university if I recall correctly. He had moved to the Computer Science field from the Electrical engineering field. ... Over time, Sri Raghunatha Sarma (later he got his PhD and so is now Dr. Raghunatha Sarma) ended up handling the key responsibility for the assets in the AI lab (I think he was doing that work prior to me joining AI lab). I was helping him in this task and we got along pretty well. I did not sign a single document related to Asset management in the AI lab. However, I did help Sri Raghunatha Sarma to prepare such documents, which probably got signed only by the HOD, Dr. Sridharan. I also handled some part of Systems Administration of AI lab. role jointly with other younger staff of the department as well as senior students (M.Sc. and M.Tech. students). Of course, I taught Software lab. courses and provided guidance to project work of M.Tech. (CS) students and also computer software project work of M.Sc. (Mathematics) students. ... From Jan. 2008 onwards (till March 2012 when I terminated my association with SSSIHL) I stopped doing the Systems Management role, and provided ONLY FREE SERVICE of teaching of software lab. courses and guiding project work of M.Sc. and M.Tech. students.

Copy of my letter to Principal, Prasanthi Nilayam campus (Prof. U.S. Rao) on 29th January 2003, stating, "This is to inform you that I am joining the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science as an honorary staff with effect from 29th January 2003." It also has references to two letters one of which is given above (copy of Registrar letter). I don't think I was given a copy of the other letter referred here (Letter of Prof. CJM Rao to Registrar). I don't recall the entire situation then but I think I was told by Prof. CJM Rao to write this letter and was told what the contents should be. Prof. CJM Rao would have specifically mentioned the term, "honorary staff" as that would be the formal designation that he would have wanted to be given to me by the appropriate authority, which would be the principal, PN campus, Prof. U.S. Rao. [Please note that the formal designation recommended was NOT Teaching Assistant!!!! An informal Systems Manager designation cannot be mapped to a formal Teaching Assistant designation!!!]

The pic below is the I-Card that was issued to me in Jan/Feb 2003, if I recall correctly, by Principal, PN campus, SSSIHL, Prof. U.S. Rao (my photo part of I-card is cut out from the pic as I prefer to not show my photo publicly). Note that the designation is Honorary Staff and NOT Teaching Assistant or Lab. Assistant as some Muddenahalli group promoters who are attacking me allege. [Or as Teacher-Drohis (those who do harm to teachers) former HOD DMACS, SSSIHL, V. Chandrasekran and former and current Registrar, SSSIHL, Naren Ramji alleged (Teaching Assistant).]


Readers may want to visit my blog post, My 2011 Dharma Sankat (Ethical Dilemma) about HOD opposition to my Sri Sathya Sai Vidya Vahini and other IT work in the Sai university,, dated Oct. 27th 2016.