How can so-called chosen communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu be a Guru?
22nd April 2020 Update: I had an inner urge to name-snip the names of some person(s) in this post and so have done so.
The public Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/selvi.samuvael/posts/1937482699619246, dated 8th Dec. 2017, questions Madhusudan Rao Naidu's status as a Guru.
It shares a quote of Sathya Sai from http://www.sathyasai.org/events/festival/gurupoornima-2017. I have given below a larger extract from this link:
Who is a Guru?
Sathya Sai Baba declares that the true guru is one who can raise the student to his own level and who has no ego or selfishness. He cautions that there are many in the world today who profess to be gurus and that we must use our discrimination and look for the signs of a true guru— one who is completely selfless, equal-minded and without envy. He teaches that the true guru will lead us to discover that we are our own guru—the God within.
"Many unwary spiritual aspirants are attracted by the magic of words and the verbal gymnastics of such showy ‘gurus’. The ‘gurus’ may be called pundits and may give lectures; but, just because of this, they do not become entitled to grant the boon of wisdom. That can be done only by Avatars, people who represent Divine attributes and glory, and wise people who have attained the highest good of spiritual discipline and have tasted the supreme bliss, who have realised the Absolute. It is no use claiming a fraction of this or that experience. The experience must be of the full and itself full. Those who know only a fraction will take you up to a certain point and leave you there, in the middle region, like Thrisanku, who was hung between heaven and earth." - Gita Vahini, p.45 [Ravi: Note that Gita Vahini is authored by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.]
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I (Ravi) made the following comment (slightly edited) on the above-mentioned Facebook post:
For me as a spiritual aspirant who was blessed to receive spiritual guidance including very valuable disciplinary corrections/admonitions, through discourses heard live from Bhagavan (phyiscal form) in Sai Kulwant Hall, and from gesture interactions with him (and words spoken to me, at one time), the biggest tragedy about Madhusudan Rao Naidu's so called chosen communicator role, is that some innocent people view Madhusudan as Sathya Sai giving them spiritual advice about their spiritual quest! That, to be really honest, infuriates me!
I would not have had issues if Madhusudan were giving spiritual advice under his own name. I mean, if some people want to view him as a spiritual master or even as an Avatar, that's their choice and I will respect their choice even if I am strongly critical of their view. I value and support freedom of religious belief. But that they view his spiritual advice as that of Sathya Sai is the big problem for me.
Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy and the former vice-chancellor of the Sai university, Prof. --Name1-snipped--, as well as Shri C. Srinivas have to be blamed as well for endorsing Madhusudan Rao Naidu's mad claims which go against the teachings and instructions of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
From a spiritual quest point of view, one of the worst things one can do is to distort and dilute the teachings of one's spiritual master with whom one has had direct interactions at physical form level, or support in such distortion and dilution. From a spiritual quest point of view, what is the use of building hundreds of free schools, super-speciality hospitals and ashrams across the world if such things are done by distorting and diluting the teachings of one's spiritual master with whom one has had direct interactions at physical form level!
These people will have to answer in the divine court for their actions of the above mentioned spiritual misguidance of thousands of Sathya Sai devotees across the world using the holy name of Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Kali Yuga Avatar, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
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In response to a comment on above mentioned Facebook post (of Selvi Samuvael), I responded:
I think many people including those who had a lot of physical proximity to Bhagavan, and are on social media, are simply SCARED to voice such views publicly. Privately they say many harsh things about Muddenahalli group leaders like Madhusudan Naidu and Narasimhamurthy - they are like lions. But publicly they are very silent :-(. That, unfortunately, has helped Muddenahalli group grow. Such is life!
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The public Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/selvi.samuvael/posts/1937482699619246, dated 8th Dec. 2017, questions Madhusudan Rao Naidu's status as a Guru.
It shares a quote of Sathya Sai from http://www.sathyasai.org/events/festival/gurupoornima-2017. I have given below a larger extract from this link:
Who is a Guru?
Sathya Sai Baba declares that the true guru is one who can raise the student to his own level and who has no ego or selfishness. He cautions that there are many in the world today who profess to be gurus and that we must use our discrimination and look for the signs of a true guru— one who is completely selfless, equal-minded and without envy. He teaches that the true guru will lead us to discover that we are our own guru—the God within.
"Many unwary spiritual aspirants are attracted by the magic of words and the verbal gymnastics of such showy ‘gurus’. The ‘gurus’ may be called pundits and may give lectures; but, just because of this, they do not become entitled to grant the boon of wisdom. That can be done only by Avatars, people who represent Divine attributes and glory, and wise people who have attained the highest good of spiritual discipline and have tasted the supreme bliss, who have realised the Absolute. It is no use claiming a fraction of this or that experience. The experience must be of the full and itself full. Those who know only a fraction will take you up to a certain point and leave you there, in the middle region, like Thrisanku, who was hung between heaven and earth." - Gita Vahini, p.45 [Ravi: Note that Gita Vahini is authored by Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.]
--- end extract from http://www.sathyasai.org/events/festival/gurupoornima-2017 ---
I (Ravi) made the following comment (slightly edited) on the above-mentioned Facebook post:
For me as a spiritual aspirant who was blessed to receive spiritual guidance including very valuable disciplinary corrections/admonitions, through discourses heard live from Bhagavan (phyiscal form) in Sai Kulwant Hall, and from gesture interactions with him (and words spoken to me, at one time), the biggest tragedy about Madhusudan Rao Naidu's so called chosen communicator role, is that some innocent people view Madhusudan as Sathya Sai giving them spiritual advice about their spiritual quest! That, to be really honest, infuriates me!
I would not have had issues if Madhusudan were giving spiritual advice under his own name. I mean, if some people want to view him as a spiritual master or even as an Avatar, that's their choice and I will respect their choice even if I am strongly critical of their view. I value and support freedom of religious belief. But that they view his spiritual advice as that of Sathya Sai is the big problem for me.
Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy and the former vice-chancellor of the Sai university, Prof. --Name1-snipped--, as well as Shri C. Srinivas have to be blamed as well for endorsing Madhusudan Rao Naidu's mad claims which go against the teachings and instructions of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
From a spiritual quest point of view, one of the worst things one can do is to distort and dilute the teachings of one's spiritual master with whom one has had direct interactions at physical form level, or support in such distortion and dilution. From a spiritual quest point of view, what is the use of building hundreds of free schools, super-speciality hospitals and ashrams across the world if such things are done by distorting and diluting the teachings of one's spiritual master with whom one has had direct interactions at physical form level!
These people will have to answer in the divine court for their actions of the above mentioned spiritual misguidance of thousands of Sathya Sai devotees across the world using the holy name of Shiva-Shakti Swarupa, Kali Yuga Avatar, Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
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In response to a comment on above mentioned Facebook post (of Selvi Samuvael), I responded:
I think many people including those who had a lot of physical proximity to Bhagavan, and are on social media, are simply SCARED to voice such views publicly. Privately they say many harsh things about Muddenahalli group leaders like Madhusudan Naidu and Narasimhamurthy - they are like lions. But publicly they are very silent :-(. That, unfortunately, has helped Muddenahalli group grow. Such is life!
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