Monday, December 12, 2016

B.N.Narasimhamurthy, MAIN MAN behind Muddenahalli group needs to ponder seriously about STOPPING Madhusudan Naidu communicator DRAMA

Last updated on 13th Dec. 2016

Around lunch time today, I spoke to a student-staff in Prasanthi Nilayam system about the strange case of brother VijaySai B.S. (VSBS). VSBS was in heavy form with physical form Swami for some time. He is an alumus of Sai university, a former teacher of Sai university, a singer, a speaker and a writer!!! That sort-of combo. is UNMATCHED in the history of Sai university, I believe. During my (free spiritual seva) stint in the Sai university (designations of Honorary Staff, Honorary Faculty and Visiting Faculty) from Jan. 2003 to March 2012, I have seen some talented Sai student teacher-speakers and some talented Sai student staff-singers but nobody with the combination of skills that VSBS has.

How did VSBS get caught up in this FALSE BELIEF about so called communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu (MRN)?? MRN is VSBS's student! So VSBS is being led down the garden path by his own student!!!

The student-staff of PN system I spoke to today indicated that Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy (BNNM) has many Kannada (people of Karnataka state from which Narasimhamurthy himself hails) Sai university alumni and Sai devotees in his grip. [Update: I was given a message over Facebook chat (slightly edited), "BNNM is a Telugu from Mysore, so all in his family speak fluent Kannada".]

I have been told by multiple people who have decent knowledge of Muddenahalli group that it is BNNM who is the KING who CONTROLS most people in Muddenhalli group including Madhusudan Rao Naidu.

Now my personal view of BNNM is that I was not so comfortable with what seemed to me to be a rather dictatorial style that he had, and so I preferred to keep my distance from him in events like Grama Seva when Sai university staff of all campuses would band together. I am very uncomfortable with dictatorial style people. BNNM was a key leader of Grama Seva activity then (prior to Mahasamadhi). I don't think I have wished him Sairam even once in person though I did interact with many of Brindavan campus teachers during Grama Seva. So I think I have had ZERO personal interaction with BNNM.

BNNM came across to me as quite honest when he shared his Swami dream instructions to him in July 2011. He said what he had dreamt and what happened later. If people wanted to believe him and accept his Swami dream instructions they could do so. But there was no force. I think that was a very fair stand. I mean, BNNM sincerely felt that Swami is giving him dream-instructions and so he had a full right to share that with others and become a leader to those who followed him. Not only do I think such an action is fully legal in India, I think it is morally correct too. Yes, there is the major aspect of Swami's teachings that he does not use others as a medium to convey his instructions. So, according to my understanding of Swami's teachings, if Swami wants to convey something to a devotee via a dream, Swami will do it via a dream directly to the devotee, and not to BNNM or somebody else in a dream and ask them to convey it to the concerned devotee.

But BNNM may have felt that in the trauma, chaos and confusion that was happening in Prasanthi Nilayam and Puttaparthi in those horrible few months after Mahasamadhi, that Swami may have made an exception to his rule, and chosen BNNM as the medium-instrument to lead the Sathya Sai movement out of the trauma, chaos and confusion it had fallen into around July 2011, especially in Prasanthi Nilayam. After all, as a person with many decades of Tyagajeevi (renunciate who sacrifices material life joys) missionary of Swami experience with great personal proximity to Swami, BNNM was perhaps a very qualified candidate to be such a medium-instrument.

And then in the period of a year and a few months from Jul 2011, say till Nov. 2012, what extraordinary success BNNM and group had!!! Top functionaries of Indian Sai orgn. and some international Sai orgn. functionaries and well known devotees and donors flocked to him. The then vice-chancellor of the Sai university, Sashidhara Prasad (a Karnataka man), seemed to have accepted BNNM as the MOSES like figure who will lead the Sathya Sai movement out of the trauma, chaos and confusion it had fallen into in the first few months after Mahasamadhi, and very unfortunately, Sashidhara Prasad almost ignored Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT), the key body meeting all expenses of the Sai university. The perhaps seniormost SSSCT trustee and grand old man of the Sai orgn., Shri Indulal Shah, had also endorsed BNNM! And, as something that may have been viewed as proof of the pudding, the Gulbarga school of BNNM and group's new trust was inaugurated in a grand way in Nov. 2012 with participation from many leaders of official Sai organization.

I was told that a youth leader of Karnataka Sai orgn. who is a practicing Chartered Accountant, was the auditor for the first year or so of the newly formed trust(s) by BNNM & group. I was also told that the total donations to the newly formed trust(s) in that period of a year or so was a very large amount.

That sort of money would have made BNNM and group believe that surely they have the blessings of Bhagavan!!! I mean, such a sudden and huge flow of money can make any group start believing any grand thing about themselves. But then, as the balance sheets of BNNM and group's new trusts are not publicly shared, I cannot be certain that the huge amount of donation money that I was told, is a correct figure.

It was from May 2014 that BNNM PUBLICLY endorsed Madhusudan Rao Naidu's (MRN) FALSE CLAIM of being a so called communicator of a so called subtle body of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba which only Madhusudan Naidu could see and interact with. In particular, BNNM has not made any public statement that he can see and interact with that so called subtle body when MRN is seeing and interacting with it.

I think this is where BNNM got into very tricky territory. BNNM had a reputation of being a Tyagajeevi backed with decades of dedicated service to Swami. MRN has no such record at all! By endorsing MRN, BNNM attached his name and reputation with that of MRN. It is not difficult at all for any person having contacts with the Sathya Sai university alumni community in India to make investigations about MRN's history prior to his becoming the so called communicator (I did make those investigations) to know that he certainly is NOWHERE NEAR the dedicated Tyagajeevi missionary that BNNM had been, and perhaps still is.

And now we have come to a stage where MRN recently gave a "discourse" of so called subtle body of Bhagavan in a function which Hon'ble Prime Minister of India, Shri Narendra Modi, participated via video-link!!! The same MRN has now been stated by Nigerian police (in end Nov. 2016) in an official statement as having told them that he does not get messages from Sri Sathya Sai Baba!!!

Does BNNM NOT realize how embarrassing this can become for Hon'ble PM of India??? Does BNNM have any idea of the ***awesome*** media access power that top rationalists of the world, including some rationalists in India, have??? They would tear apart MRN's claim made in a function attended by Hon'ble PM to pieces, and make a big joke of it. If BNNM & co. think that I am wildly speculating let them read something about Prof. Richard Dawkins, one of the leading atheist rationalists in the world.

I am concerned not only from the viewpoint of embarrassment to Hon'ble PM of India but, perhaps more importantly, how embarrassing it will be for the Sathya Sai fraternity.

BNNM may be able to COMMAND and CONTROL MRN and VSBS and ensure that they simply stay silent to all the questions some of us pose to them. By simply ignoring our pointed questions and challenges to them, they are able to carry on their so called communicator DRAMA. But once top rationalists and mainstream media start asking them questions via powerful media channels, BNNM and MRN will have to answer.

The tragedy is that it is MRN that has taken on ALL THE RISK. It is MRN who will be pointedly questioned by investigative agencies like the Nigerian police questioned him. BNNM may say that he was simply believing in MRN's claim, and get away. But we know, don't we? We know that it is BNNM who is the KING who is directing this whole show.

I was recently told by somebody that Muddenahalli group have got an Aadhaar card (a universally accepted identity card in India; rough Indian equivalent to USA social security identification) and even perhaps a passport done in the name of (subtle) Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, and it was this(ese) identity document(s) that was used to get a Boarding Pass in the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba (SAI BABA BHAGAWAN) for a recent private Indian airline chartered flight that Muddenahalli group used. If it is true that they have an Aadhaar card and/or passport in the name of (subtle body) SAI BABA BHAGAWAN, I think it is very shocking. Surely, BNNM should realize that serious questions can be asked of govt. authorities who issued such a document without acceptable proof of existence of that person.

Just imagine what the plight of MRN will be if he is told to prove existence of subtle body to investigative agencies in India or to a High Court in India.

Now who is responsible for this state of affairs of Muddenahalli group? I think the answer is clear. It is Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy (BNNM). He cannot try to put the blame on Madhusudan Rao Naidu for making the weird communicator claim. If BNNM had not endorsed MRN, MRN would have remained a fairly unknown person to the worldwide Sathya Sai fraternity. It is BNNM who has projected, endorsed and supported MRN and made MRN the FALSE CLAIM communicator famous/infamous figure that he is today in Sathya Sai devotee community.

If Muddenahalli group faces more embarrassment and troubles like the Nigerian police investigation then it is BNNM who has to take the primary blame for it. He cannot escape by trying to put the blame on others.

I think Shri B.N. Narasimhmurthy should take a break, keep away from Madhusudan Rao Naidu for a few days, and ponder seriously about the fate of the group that he is leading. He should realize that while he  himself may not care about what happens to him, he HAS TO WORRY about the future of people associated with Muddenahalli group. I am quite sure that if he ponders carefully, away from MRN for a few days, BNNM will realize that it is high time that MRN's public discourses, interviews and darshans in the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, have to be STOPPED. If they are STOPPED now Muddenahalli group may be able to flourish as a separate Sathya Sai devotee platform. If MRN's DRAMA continues to be associated with Muddenahalli group, a future Indian investigative agency or court investigation into MRN's so called communicator claims IS INEVITABLE, and like in the Nigerian police report, the Indian investigative agency/court report will surely be critical of any medium/communicator claim that MRN makes.

In conclusion, I think Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy needs to now ponder seriously over the situation and take a sound decision about STOPPING Madhusudan Rao Naidu communicator DRAMA to safeguard interests of Muddenahalli group.

Given below are some comments from my associated Facebook post,

Uma Ragunathan wrote:
Your views are right, anna.

Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
Excellent article, Ravi S. Iyer. I have been told that the mainstream media are ready to pounce at anytime now on this tragic story.

Nagesh Nallappa wrote:
Superb article! The sooner the better for BNNM!

Yaani Drucker wrote:
Dear brother, You perceived a dictatorial style in your brother Narasimhamurthy. My husband due to growing up in the the aura of Adolf Hitler as a young boy would be keenly alert to any dictatorial style, and he loved Narasimhamurthi and saw in him an exemplary life of dedicated service to Baba and the students in his charge. Al greatly admired him and they were very good friends throughout Al's tenure at the Brindavan campus.

Is it possible that you are wrong?

As I mentioned to you privately, I just recently heard that Madhusudan Naidu was Narayan Bhat in his previous incarnation. This makes alot of sense to me, and makes it a perfect fit that he is now serving Baba in Muddenhalli. Its just a continuation of that lifestream, moving from one pure and holy life of loving service to the next seamlessly. Jai Sai Ram [Heart-icon]

Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Sairam sister Yaani Drucker. Thanks for your comment.

Sure, I could be wrong in my perception of Shri Narasimhamurthy (BNNM) in the years I was with the Sai university (Jan. 2003 to March 2012). But I have to say that my perception is shared by many in Prasanthi Nilayam system.

However, I must also say that Prasanthi Nilayam system too was also quite dictatorial in my experience of it (prior to Mahasamadhi; after Mahasamadhi I have had very limited exposure to it). However, it was less dictatorial than what I perceived BNNM and Brindavan campus which was essentially ruled by BNNM, to be. I think Bhagavan's physical presence in Prasanthi Nilayam ensured that rules of the ashram system were blended with compassion for those who were truly devoted to Bhagavan. After all, any devotee could plead with Bhagavan at darshan in Sai Kulwanth Hall!

Now I must also state that when I use the term dictatorial I certainly do not mean the horrific and monstrous dictatorial rule like that of Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany OR that of many other similar dictators in other parts of the world, including some parts of Asia, Africa and Latin America in the second half of the 20th century (with some continuing even in this early 21st century).

By dictatorial in Indian ashram systems, I mean ashram administrative bosses who dictate orders which are expected to be obeyed without much questioning by their staff. I think most ashram systems in India, including Christian and Muslim equivalents would be largely dictatorial. A benevolent dictatorship is perhaps the best form of governance! The hassle is that dictatorship breeds misuse and abuse of power and so the benevolent dictatorship tends to decay into an abusive dictatorship over time.

It is my considered view that Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy due to having spent years as the top boss in Brindavan campus, and having alumni community of Muddenahalli-Alike schools as well as some alumni of Sai university as his dedicated followers, got into a sort-of mental trap where he felt obliged to become a MOSES-like leader of the Sathya Sai fraternity, after the first few REALLY HORRIBLE months of trauma, chaos and confusion that followed Swami's Mahasamadhi in Prasanthi Nilayam.

My considered view is that if BNNM had stopped at his Swami dream-instructions role, it may have been manageable. I mean, people like Prof. Anilkumar Kamaraju, most SSSCT trustees and other senior people of Prasanthi Nilayam would not have accepted BNNM as the Swami dream-instruction medium but it would not have created the confusion that Muddenahalli group is creating today in the Sathya Sai movement worldwide.

Madhusudan Rao Naidu's history is NOWHERE NEAR the kind of history that Tyagajeevi missionary BNNM has. NOWHERE NEAR! While I may not have been comfortable with BNNM, I had and still have HUGE RESPECT for his service to the Sathya Sai movement PRIOR TO MAHASAMADHI. I am just a NOBODY in front of the kind of contribution that BNNM made to Sathya Sai movement PRIOR TO MAHASAMADHI.

Madhusudan Rao Naidu, however, DOES NOT have any extraordinarily pure devotee of Swami whom Swami showered with extraordinary physical or other proximity, kind of history in Prasanthi Nilayam. I mean, people in Prasanthi Nilayam know who were the students whom Swami showered with special attention and grace. There are quite a few of them who are in Prasanthi Nilayam system today and are serving in Bhagavan's institutions.

How could Bhagavan show himself and interact with Madhusudan Rao Naidu in a so called subtle body which is (primarily) visible and audible only to him??? How about the many other Sai students who have dedicated their lives to Swami's mission in Prasanthi Nilayam system as well as in Brindavan and Anantapur campuses of the Sai university??? I know many of such Sai student-staff in Prasanthi Nilayam system quite well. I mean, I was interacting with some of them on a regular basis. It is UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE to me that Bhagavan will not show this so called subtle body of his and communicate with that subtle body to at least some of these dedicated Sai student-staff of his in Prasanthi Nilayam, but limit himself only to Madhusudan Rao Naidu. That goes so against how Bhagavan interacted with them prior to Mahasamadhi. How could Bhagavan change so drastically after Mahasamadhi in his so called subtle body???

Note that this so called subtle body does not communicate (regularly like it supposedly does with Madhusudan Rao Naidu) even with BNNM or Indulal Shah sir, two highly respected veteran leaders of Sathya Sai movement, prior to Mahasamadhi!!!!

But then I cannot prove to you that Madhusudan Rao Naidu is saying falsehood. I mean, I have studied his speeches as so called communicator and found out enough differences between what he said and what physical form Swami said to be convinced that so called communicator is not saying the words of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, and I have documented this on my blog. But proving it has to go beyond such analysis.

It is police investigation and court of law hearings that, many times, reveal the truth about such matters. Under oath to say the truth (with perjury risk of incarceration/jail), Madhusudan Rao Naidu may be forced to say the truth. The Nigerian police report seems to be such an example (though he may not have taken an oath to say the truth then but it was a police investigation and so he would have been scared to lie to them). It states clearly that Madhusudan Rao Naidu told them that he does not receive messages from Sathya Sai Baba!!! If Madhusudan Rao Naidu feels that the Nigerian police report is wrong and that he did not say that, then he MUST MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT to that effect. Is it not? Otherwise what credibility does he have? Or is he scared to make such a public statement? If so, that fear itself shows that he cannot be a so called communicator of Kali Yuga Avatar, Shiva-Shakti Swarupa Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba.

So, I am afraid sister Yaani, I have to disagree with you on Madhusudan Rao Naidu.

However, I wish Muddenahalli group all the best in their service to humanity activities. In particular, I would be very happy if Muddenahalli group succeed in opening and running a FREE HOSPITAL in the USA that serves the poor (in particular, those without health insurance). I am sure that Bhagavan would be very happy with such a Seva activity accomplishment. I wish them all the very best in such service to humanity activities that they are engaged in. Jai Sairam!
Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
Brilliant writing, Ravi S. Iyer! No one explains the takeover with such a background to draw on and is bold, forthright, and kind to those who oppose him with such artfulness. Thanks again. Jai Sai Ram.....
Przemek Czarnowski wrote:
It is very thoughtful comment by Ravi, based on facts and not fantasies. It is touching very important points which seems some devotees or followers refuse to acknowledge. For some people breaking the law or lying is absolutely OK. But it is shocking me that this kind of behavior is supported and endorsed by some devotees. I would wish MDH group all the best as well in the seva service if it was true seva service by definition. There is more and more evidence of unethical funds collection, money wheedling in the name of Sai, so how someone can call it seva or selfless service for Bhagavan?
Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I think Yaani's comment here was a fair one, from her perspective, and not artful. She also played fair by acknowledging my response with a Like.
Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
And thanks Terry Reis Kennedy for the kind words about me in the rest of your above comment.
Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
Przemek Czarnowski, Thanks for your comment. Regarding my comment being based on facts and not fantasies: Well, I try to follow the standards used in international computer science and information technology field, in internal documents as well as external documents/academic papers, of which I was a part of for around 30 years (18 years international software industry, 9 years free service teacher & consultant in an Indian deemed university, and 3 to 4 years as a free service blogger on Indian Computer Science and Information Technology Academic Reform activism). So I resist an urge to charge somebody as a liar or as making a FALSE BELIEF claim, unless there is very strong evidence for it. The Nigerian police document about Madhusudan Rao Naidu's statement to them that he does not receive messages from Sri Sathya Sai Baba, on Nigerian police letterhead is an awesome and authoritative document in this regard. I have used it to challenge brother VijaySai B.S. who had put out an alternative version of the Nigerian police interrogation, and brother VijaySai B.S. seems to have got COMPLETELY SILENCED by my challenge.
Ravi S. Iyer wrote:
I was given a message over Facebook chat (slightly edited), "BNNM is a Telugu from Mysore, so all in his family speak fluent Kannada".


  1. I am an ardent follower of Sathya Sai Baba for past 40 years. Such activities undertaken by Muddenhalli group is going to shaken the belief all over the world. It is going to be tough for current generation of Bal Vikas children. It is high time, Andhra, Telangana and Karnataka Govt start proceedings to find out how passport can be issued in the name of subtle body. I am hopeful, this is just small obstacle in Swami's mission.

  2. Dear Ravi S Iyer,
    Keep up the good fight. Some of us have known these mainstream but shady elements within the Sai mission. They have manifested themselves before and they will always be there. This is about some of these people working their ego out to make something of their pathetic little lives. There are a lot of us who take to spirituality from a point of weakness and we see all sorts of things and incarnations with dirty people and dirty motives. Knowing that Swami is the only focal point in our lives and all else is false is what this test has always been about. Personally, I am proud that when it comes down to the count, You stand up to be counted. Sairams!