PM Narendra Modi using words 'sukshma roop' (subtle body) is fine so long as he does not say Madhusudan Rao Naidu in that context
Shri Vr Ganti sir in his Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/vr.ganti.1/posts/10208131426228059, shared my Facebook post, https://www.facebook.com/ravi.s.iyer.7/posts/1824219464461289 and wrote the following as a comment on his post (slightly edited):
PM Modi using the following words is definitely is opening up another controversy for SAI Devotees from PARTHI CAMP AND MHALLI CAMP to argue/counter argue.
"PM Modi, speaking in Hindi, said that Swami is available to us in 'sukskma roop' (subtle form) and 'har pal me' (at every moment)."
Sai Devotees world over believe, agree and understand BHAGAWAN SRI SATHYA SAI BABA's OMNIPRESENCE. That is the reason I was saying right from the beginning that Bhagawan being Omnipresent via sukshma swaroopa is nothing new. However, the concept of chosen communicator in the form of Madhusudhan Naidu is absolutely FALSE and (that) MISGUIDANCE is what is being objected (to) by the traditional Sai Devotees.
Having said the above, PM Modi could have avoided the words "SWAMI being in Sukshma roop" and that would have held PM in "good stead" and not (left) the Sai Fraternity guessing what NaMo's ideas (are) about Mhalli Game. I may not be wrong in saying that Modi has not just disappointed but (was) being diplomatic (may be the better words (are) "not being forthright").
Obviously the Mhalli supporters would like to take Modi's words as supportive (of) LIGHTBODY and Parthi Camp supporters would like to say that Modi's words mean Omnipresence and not Lightbody per se. These arguments are neither here not there and Modi has not (done) the right thing in my opinion. He could have been more clear.
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I (Ravi S. Iyer) responded to the above comment on his post as follows:
Vr Ganti sir, I think PM Modi using the words, 'Sukshma roop' (subtle form), is fine, as such words are common in typical Hindu spirituality & religion discourse/discussions. Due to Muddenahalli group using the words, 'sukshma roop', for their twisted logic to promote the FALSE BELIEF of so called communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu, and so called 'sukshma roop' (subtle body) of Bhagavan based in Muddenahalli, some of us Sathya Sai devotees have acquired an additional negative sensitivity towards those words. But PM Modi cannot be expected to be aware of such detailed sensitivities and even if he is aware, he cannot be expected to modify his language due to such sensitivities of some Sathya Sai devotees!!
If PM Modi goes further and says 'sukshma roop' and uses the name of Madhusudan Rao Naidu in that context, then it would become, depending on the exact words used, either a direct or a veiled endorsement of FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu. So far, as far as I know, PM Modi has NOT MADE ANY PUBLIC STATEMENT of that sort at all. I am deeply grateful to PM Modi and other leaders like CM Raman Singh, for the same. I earnestly pray to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Puttaparthi, that PM Modi, CM Raman Singh and other political leaders that Muddenahalli group have contact with or approaches in future, continue to retain that stand, and DO NOT promote or endorse the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu.
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PM Modi using the following words is definitely is opening up another controversy for SAI Devotees from PARTHI CAMP AND MHALLI CAMP to argue/counter argue.
"PM Modi, speaking in Hindi, said that Swami is available to us in 'sukskma roop' (subtle form) and 'har pal me' (at every moment)."
Sai Devotees world over believe, agree and understand BHAGAWAN SRI SATHYA SAI BABA's OMNIPRESENCE. That is the reason I was saying right from the beginning that Bhagawan being Omnipresent via sukshma swaroopa is nothing new. However, the concept of chosen communicator in the form of Madhusudhan Naidu is absolutely FALSE and (that) MISGUIDANCE is what is being objected (to) by the traditional Sai Devotees.
Having said the above, PM Modi could have avoided the words "SWAMI being in Sukshma roop" and that would have held PM in "good stead" and not (left) the Sai Fraternity guessing what NaMo's ideas (are) about Mhalli Game. I may not be wrong in saying that Modi has not just disappointed but (was) being diplomatic (may be the better words (are) "not being forthright").
Obviously the Mhalli supporters would like to take Modi's words as supportive (of) LIGHTBODY and Parthi Camp supporters would like to say that Modi's words mean Omnipresence and not Lightbody per se. These arguments are neither here not there and Modi has not (done) the right thing in my opinion. He could have been more clear.
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I (Ravi S. Iyer) responded to the above comment on his post as follows:
Vr Ganti sir, I think PM Modi using the words, 'Sukshma roop' (subtle form), is fine, as such words are common in typical Hindu spirituality & religion discourse/discussions. Due to Muddenahalli group using the words, 'sukshma roop', for their twisted logic to promote the FALSE BELIEF of so called communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu, and so called 'sukshma roop' (subtle body) of Bhagavan based in Muddenahalli, some of us Sathya Sai devotees have acquired an additional negative sensitivity towards those words. But PM Modi cannot be expected to be aware of such detailed sensitivities and even if he is aware, he cannot be expected to modify his language due to such sensitivities of some Sathya Sai devotees!!
If PM Modi goes further and says 'sukshma roop' and uses the name of Madhusudan Rao Naidu in that context, then it would become, depending on the exact words used, either a direct or a veiled endorsement of FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu. So far, as far as I know, PM Modi has NOT MADE ANY PUBLIC STATEMENT of that sort at all. I am deeply grateful to PM Modi and other leaders like CM Raman Singh, for the same. I earnestly pray to Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba of Puttaparthi, that PM Modi, CM Raman Singh and other political leaders that Muddenahalli group have contact with or approaches in future, continue to retain that stand, and DO NOT promote or endorse the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu.
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