Monday, January 16, 2017

Brother VijaySai B.S. must ponder over Muddenahalli communicators' misguidance damage and associated negative karmic consequences

Last updated on 5th Dec 2018

In response to a Facebook post somewhere, and comment exchanges there, I wrote a post on Facebook whose main contents are given below.

I think brother VijaySai B.S. must ponder over the misguidance damage and associated negative karmic consequences of the impersonation of some aspects of Sathya Sai (discourses, interviews, some aspects of darshan) that the so called communicator, Madhusudan Rao Naidu is doing. Yesterday somebody told me that he had met Shri B.N. Narasimhamurthy (BNNM) in person after Mahasamadhi and after he had started making claims that Swami was giving him instructions but before Madhusudan Rao Naidu had started playing this role in Muddenahalli group. This person said that at that time he asked BNNM whether he could see/glimpse this (subtle body) Swami, and BNNM told him that he (BNMM) could actually glimpse/see this subtle body Swami!!! We are not talking dream instructions here, mind you.

This is the first time I have heard of BNNM making such a claim. And that too to a person who has had many interactions with physical form Swami earlier!

I don't know whether BNNM continues to make such claims in private of being able to communicate directly with this so called subtle body of Swami but I would not be surprised if that is the case. In public, BNNM seems to be elder Sai fraternity leader graciously supporting Madhusudan Rao Naidu as the PRIMARY COMMUNICATOR of subtle body and BNNM does not give any hint of he himself (BNNM) having the ability to communicate directly with this so called subtle body. But in private perhaps BNNM is the main communicator who does not have any need to use intermediary Madhusudan Rao Naidu to communicate with this so called subtle body!!

Interesting possibility, isn't it? Public communicator being Madhusudan and private direct channel communicator being Narasimhamurthy with Madhusudan becoming deputy to Narasimhamurthy-communicator in private!

Now brother VijaySai B.S. would know a lot about such matters. After all, he has been intimately associated with Muddenahalli group right from its inception, a few months after Mahasamadhi, and has been a prominent speaker-preacher promoting Muddenahalli group right from end 2011 itself, and has been in the forefront of endorsing and promoting his former student Madhusudan Rao Naidu as the so called chosen communicator.

As a person who is deeply interested in spirituality & religion over decades (even before I got associated with Sathya Sai movement in early to mid 1990s), I have to say that the negative karmic consequences of those who misguide others using the name of their guru like what Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Narasimhamurthy are doing, and which was heavily promoted by VijaySai B.S., will surely be very burdensome. In the spiritual quest, we try to separate Maya (illusion) from the ultimate reality of existence (Paramarthika Sathyam), and thereby arrive at some experience & understanding of the changeless Atma which is the reality of our individual selves, and is a part of the total reality, the Paramatma which powers the illusive universe. That itself is such an extraordinarily though subtly difficult task.

To muddy the waters further by propagating fantasies that some spiritual aspirants unfortunately get caught up in sometimes, or worse to be witting or unwitting participants in a deliberately fraudulent spiritual mission, would make the Mayic illusion even more powerful and thereby harder for such persons to get out of. Not only would such promoters of false beliefs get caught up more deeply in Maya but they would be actively involved in so many others (thousands of Sathya Sai devotees across the world) being caught up in that false belief! How complex would that misguidance karmic entanglement be! Once those devotees who have been misguided realize that they were misguided, how angry they would be at those that misguided them and how much emotional trauma they would be undergoing! What then would be the karmic consequences for those that did this misguidance and helped in promoting it! My mind boggles as I think about these matters. Therefore I would sincerely advise brother VijaySai B.S. that if he GENUINELY WANTS spiritual progress for himself he should seriously think about what I have written above.

If VijaySai B.S. has developed significant doubts about Madhusudan Rao Naidu and B.N. Narasimhamurthy's claims of being so called communicators of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, then it is high time for VijaySai B.S. to simply move away from that association for his own spiritual progress (and also for that of his family, I have to say). Of course, he is always welcome to reassociate with Prasanthi Nilayam based Sathya Sai movement after he separates from them. Prasanthi Nilayam based mission, as far as I know, is not a revenge based spiritual mission. I am sure that he (and his family) will surely be accepted back and be given appropriate opportunities to serve Bhagavan in Prasanthi Nilayam based mission, provided he gives up his association with Muddenahalli false belief.

I had to write the above words as I felt prompted by my conscience and inner being. I have had many private Facebook chat interactions as well as public Facebook interactions with brother VijaySai B.S., a former faculty of Sai university (with me being a former Visiting faculty of Sai university). We both were very frank with each other in our conversations. So I felt obliged by these extensive interactions that I have had with brother VijaySai B.S. and his unfailing politeness to me even when I had to use some harsh criticism against him, to be as truthful as I could in sharing my views on this important spiritual matter. Of course, I too am a spiritual aspirant and I could be wrong as I do not have any paranormal powers of knowing exactly what is going in the minds of Muddenahalli false belief leaders Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Narasimhamurthy. If my words hurt any reader, including brother VijaySai B.S. (if he reads this), I seek their forgiveness for the hurt caused. I genuinely believe that my above words may help brother VijaySai B.S. and that is why I have written them even if the words are rather harsh (negative karmic consequences ...).

I must also say that I have heard Bhagavan speak about Karma so many times, live in Sai Kulwant Hall, Prasanthi Nilayam. Bhagavan did not sugar-coat such matters. I mean, it was not as if Love All Serve All meant a blanket permission to say anything and do anything just because one thinks that one is doing good (one may actually be doing bad).

I recall he would say a Telugu verse about bats having to lead unusual lives (hanging upside down, being nightbirds ...) and ask, is it not their (negative) karma that has caused them to lead such lives? And he would hammer - Daiva preeti, paap bheeti, sangha neeti (Love of God, fear of sin, righteous community living). So simple but yet we tend to not realize how powerful such words are! Today I feel that one of Bhagavan's most important teachings for the 21st century world is Daiva preeti, paap bheeti, sangha neeti. I am so deeply grateful to Bhagavan for hammering that teaching deep into my heart and head through so many discourses I heard from him live sitting in Sai Kulwant Hall, Prasanthi Nilayam.

To understand and try to practice (we may fail at times; I do fail at times) Daiva preeti, paap bheeti, sangha neeti, we need to have enough discrimination to differentiate between what is Godly and what is ungodly, what is sin and what is virtue, what is righteous living in a community and what is not (what is righteous (and acceptable) may vary in some aspects, from community to community across our wide and very varied world, IMHO). All is not good, at least from the perspective of most of us Sai devotees as we (including me, for sure) are spiritual aspirants and not fully enlightened cosmic consciousness spiritual masters! There is good & godly and bad & ungodly. We need to have the discrimination to differentiate between them and associate with the good & godly and run away/keep safe distance from the bad & ungodly.

Jai Sairam!

I was reading January 2017 Sanathana Sarathi and came across an appropriate quotation of Swami to share in the context of this post. From Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba's discourse in Sai Sruthi, Kodaikanal on 22nd April 1993:
"Whatever actions man performs, he will have equal and appropriate consequences. He cannot escape the consequences of his actions. Man may leave the world at one moment or the other, but the consequences of his actions will not leave him; they will follow him. So, we should do good actions, develop good thoughts and join good company. Only then will we get good reward in future. As is the seed, so is the tree. As is the tree, so is the fruit.".

Given below are some comments (slightly edited) from my Facebook post,, associated with this blog post:

--Name-snipped-- wrote:
This Is Most Inspiring .. Thanks For Sharing Your Thoughts With Us ~ SAIRAM SAI BLESS [heart-icon].

Terry Reis Kennedy wrote:
A joy to read, Ravi S. Iyer.

--Name-snipped-- wrote:
Sai Ram. Thanks for the wonderful post sir.

Uma Ragunathan wrote:
Anna, their Buddhi has taken a back seat. So they won't worry of Karmic Consequences !!

Ravi S. Iyer responded to above comment:
VijaySai seems to me to be a genuine person based on my extensive interactions with him. Perhaps he got misguided/deluded.

Uma Ragunathan wrote:
Anna, i too meant when a person gets misguided, he/she loses his Buddhi. They lose their power of discrimination.
[Ravi S. Iyer Facebook-liked above comment of Uma Ragunathan.]

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