Sathya Sai devotee Advaita lecturers who failed the Muddenahalli great spiritual test; Real experience of Advaita
Sometimes Sathya Sai devotees who are great talkers on Advaita (non-duality) but do not have the very powerful Advaita experiences of oneness with others (where they ***really experience*** that they are in all bodies not just their body alone) tend to be impressive lecturers but fail the great spiritual tests like assessing the claims of deluded/false prophets like Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Rao Naidu.
And then there are some who claim to be enlightened but have failed to see through the delusions and/or deliberate falsehood of cheap imitator Madhusudan Rao Naidu! So these supposedly enlightened persons seem to be in the darkness and not in the light.
And the big tragedy is that these supposedly enlightened person(s) who have been spiritually duped by Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Narasimhamurthy, have endorsed Madhusudan Rao Naidu's claims and thereby contributed to deluding and trapping many innocent Sathya Sai devotees across the world into the false belief of Muddenahalli group.
It is quite easy to lecture on Advaita for a person with some decent intellect and reasonable reading of Advaita scripture and books. The tough part is actually experiencing the Advaita core belief of: I am in all and all are in me; There is only one which projects itself as the many.
From Chapter 9 of Shirdi Sai Satcharitra, http://www.saibaba.org/satcharitra/sai9.html
Once, Mrs. Tarkhad was staying in a certain house in Shirdi. At noon, meals were ready and dishes were being served, when a hungry dog turned up there and began to cry, Mrs. Tarkhad got up at once and threw a piece of bread, which the dog gulped with great relish. In the afternoon, when she went to the Masjid and sat at some distance, Sai Baba said to her, "Mother, you have fed Me sumptuously up to my throat, My afflicted pranas (life-forces) have been satisfied. always act like this, and this will stand you in good stead. Sitting in this Masjid I shall never, never speak untruth. Take pity on Me like this. First give bread to the hungry, and then eat yourself. Note this well." She could not at first understand the meaning of what Baba said. So she replied -- "Baba, how could I feed You? I am myself dependent on others and take my food from them on payment." Then Baba replied -- "Eating that lovely bread I am heartily contended and I am still belching. The dog which you saw before meals and to which you gave the piece of bread is, one with Me, so also other creatures (cats, pigs, flies, cows etc.) are one with Me. I am roaming in their forms. He, who sees Me in all these creatures is My beloved. So abandon the sense of duality and distinction, and serve Me, as you did today." Drinking these nectar-like words, she was moved, her eyes were filled with tears, her throat was choked and her joy knew no bounds.
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So Shirdi Sai Baba experienced the hunger of a dog being satiated by his devotee and when the devotee went to him a little later, told his devotee that she had fed him. Now that is what I would term "real experience" of Advaita!
In this context I should also mention a Sathya Sai discourse perhaps in the 2000s where he said that there are some who claim that they are spiritually highly elevated/enlightened but they are not really spiritually highly elevated/enlightened. I think that presuming oneself to be spiritually highly elevated/enlightened when one is not really so, is one of the great and tragic traps of the spiritual path.
[I thank saibaba.org and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above extract from their website on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
And then there are some who claim to be enlightened but have failed to see through the delusions and/or deliberate falsehood of cheap imitator Madhusudan Rao Naidu! So these supposedly enlightened persons seem to be in the darkness and not in the light.
And the big tragedy is that these supposedly enlightened person(s) who have been spiritually duped by Madhusudan Rao Naidu and Narasimhamurthy, have endorsed Madhusudan Rao Naidu's claims and thereby contributed to deluding and trapping many innocent Sathya Sai devotees across the world into the false belief of Muddenahalli group.
It is quite easy to lecture on Advaita for a person with some decent intellect and reasonable reading of Advaita scripture and books. The tough part is actually experiencing the Advaita core belief of: I am in all and all are in me; There is only one which projects itself as the many.
From Chapter 9 of Shirdi Sai Satcharitra, http://www.saibaba.org/satcharitra/sai9.html
Once, Mrs. Tarkhad was staying in a certain house in Shirdi. At noon, meals were ready and dishes were being served, when a hungry dog turned up there and began to cry, Mrs. Tarkhad got up at once and threw a piece of bread, which the dog gulped with great relish. In the afternoon, when she went to the Masjid and sat at some distance, Sai Baba said to her, "Mother, you have fed Me sumptuously up to my throat, My afflicted pranas (life-forces) have been satisfied. always act like this, and this will stand you in good stead. Sitting in this Masjid I shall never, never speak untruth. Take pity on Me like this. First give bread to the hungry, and then eat yourself. Note this well." She could not at first understand the meaning of what Baba said. So she replied -- "Baba, how could I feed You? I am myself dependent on others and take my food from them on payment." Then Baba replied -- "Eating that lovely bread I am heartily contended and I am still belching. The dog which you saw before meals and to which you gave the piece of bread is, one with Me, so also other creatures (cats, pigs, flies, cows etc.) are one with Me. I am roaming in their forms. He, who sees Me in all these creatures is My beloved. So abandon the sense of duality and distinction, and serve Me, as you did today." Drinking these nectar-like words, she was moved, her eyes were filled with tears, her throat was choked and her joy knew no bounds.
--- end short extract from Shirdi Sai Satcharitra ---
So Shirdi Sai Baba experienced the hunger of a dog being satiated by his devotee and when the devotee went to him a little later, told his devotee that she had fed him. Now that is what I would term "real experience" of Advaita!
In this context I should also mention a Sathya Sai discourse perhaps in the 2000s where he said that there are some who claim that they are spiritually highly elevated/enlightened but they are not really spiritually highly elevated/enlightened. I think that presuming oneself to be spiritually highly elevated/enlightened when one is not really so, is one of the great and tragic traps of the spiritual path.
[I thank saibaba.org and have presumed that they will not have any objections to me sharing the above extract from their website on this post which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
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