My comments about some people worshiping Swami student (Madhusudan Naidu) as Swami (Sathya Sai)
In response to a comment seeking my views on Madhusudan Rao Naidu on Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/IncyRose1504/posts/10213719836525688?comment_id=10213723926667939&reply_comment_id=10213727025105398), I (Ravi) wrote (slightly edited):
Sairam --name-snipped--! Many others have commented wisely on this thread refuting the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu.
What I have realized is that some people yearn for having physical form level interactions with Swami so much that they are willing to believe that Swami enters Madhusudan's body and so they worship Madhu as Swami! For people like me who have experienced physical form of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba for many years in Puttaparthi, we find it ridiculous that some people including a few who have had close physical proximity with Bhagavan physical form in the past, are propagating this Madhu Baba FALSE BELIEF and trying to justify that on the basis of the free service educational and medical services they are providing.
Now people openly take Padanamaskar of Madhu Baba and kneel before him. If Swami really enters Madhu Baba then even Narasimhamurthy and C. Srinivas and other senior Sai university alumni who have propagated this FALSE BELIEF, should also kneel before Madhu and take Padanamaskar of him. Am I not right there?
But they are not doing that. Why? In fact, if you observe people like C. Srinivas carefully when he is on stage with Madhu Baba you will find that he treats him like a junior! Even Narasimhamurthy sits on an equal status chair as that of Madhu Baba. We know what ****awesome**** presence physical form Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba had. In his presence in Sai Kulwant Hall, all persons would be very reverential to him. I am sure if anybody sincerely compares videos of C. Srinivas and Narasimhamurthy with physical form Bhagavan, and videos of them with this FALSE CLAIM so-called communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu, they will see the differences for themselves and know that both Narasimhamurthy and C. Srinivas don't really worship Madhu as Swami even when Swami is supposed to have entered Madhu's body.
But then some people want to worship a Swami student as Swami, now that Swami's physical form is not there. And note that this Swami student, Madhu, was never really a big form boy like Satyajit or other big form boys. Still they want to worship Madhu. What can be done then? We have freedom of religious worship in India. While my view is that a legal challenge in India can be made by Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT) against Madhusudan Rao Naidu for stealing the name of our beloved Lord Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, for Madhu's darshan, interview and discourses, SSSCT has not made that legal challenge. Perhaps SSSCT wants to avoid harsh publicity that might come if such a case is filed in court.
So Madhu freely goes around with his FALSE CLAIM which is endorsed and propagated by Narasimhamurthy, C. Srinivas and others. Those who want to worship him as Sathya Sai cannot be stopped from doing so. We can only advise them that they are following a fake communicator. They are free to ignore our advice.
Hope this comment helps. Thanks. Jai Sairam!
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In response to a comment about legal actions taken by Sai Org, I wrote (slightly edited):
Sairam! As far as I know, that was a letter from USA Sai orgn. which pertains to activities done in the USA. Further, I believe that MDH group ignored their letter warning and continued to hold the programs they had scheduled in the USA.
As far as I know, no legal challenge has been issued in India to MDH group from Sai orgn or from any Sai devotee group, for MDH group's unauthorized (and improper) use of name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba in India.
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In response to a comment about Sai orgn. having had some success in legal actions against MDH group in one foreign country, I wrote (slightly edited):
Great to hear that. Let's hope something similar happens in India, especially in Karnataka state of India where Muddenahalli falls. BTW my personal view is that somebody should file a PIL (Public Interest Litigation) in Karnataka High Court against Madhusudan Rao Naidu for unauthorisedly using the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba for Madhu's darshan, interviews and discourses. I am not in a position to do that myself though. Here's my blog post giving my views on the matter, in case you want to have a look at it: Satyajit opens up on Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudhan Naidu; I (Ravi) recommend PIL against Madhusudhan Naidu, https://ravisiyer.blogspot.com/2015/10/satyajit-opens-up-on-narasimhamurthy.html, dated 2nd Oct. 2015.
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I later commented (slightly edited):
For any reasonable person who has studied the matter, it is clear as daylight that Madhusudan Rao Naidu is making a FALSE CLAIM. But then what I have realized is that there is a big market - yes, market is the word - for claimed mediums and communicators of Sathya Sai, after Mahasamadhi, as there are many Sathya Sai devotees who very badly want to believe in such mediums and communicators. Madhu has tapped that market BIGTIME. There are others too who have tapped the market but these people do not do public drama of darshan and discourses.
Essentially, there is a demand among some Sathya Sai devotees for such mediums and communicators and both Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Naidu satisfied that market demand with their dream-instruction and communicator claims.
-------- end my comments on Facebook ------------------------
Given below are the contents of Mr. V.R. Ganti's Facebook post: MADHU IS MADE A HERO BY SAI ALUMNUS WHO WAS PRASHANTHI NILAYAM STAFF HITHERTO, https://www.facebook.com/notes/vr-ganti/madhu-is-made-a-hero-by-sai-alumnus-who-was-prashanthi-nilayam-staff-hitherto/10211271398565405, dated 26th Dec. 2017
From around 25:11 in this Christmas Eve video, see this guy who was student-staff in PN ashram till recently, kneel before Madhu and then take Padanamaskar almost of Madhu (I say almost as he does not touch Madhu's feet):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2-dg2qvrw
[To open pic in higher resolution, right-click on pic followed by open in new tab/window. In new tab/window you may have to click on pic to zoom in.]
This person seems to be a junior of Madhusudan Rao Naidu and is a singer, I believe. As I wrote earlier, he was with the PN ashram system till recently. But I did not see him as a lead singer in whatever few videos I have seen recently of PN ashram events - I could be wrong here though. I see him being given a lead singer kind of role/job in the Muddenahalli group. Perhaps that higher-profile role in Mhalli Group and perhaps same or better salary may have been the clincher.
I think this is the first time I am seeing a Sai university alumnus (who also was a PN ashram staff) take Padanamaskar of Madhu Baba (and that too publicly).
What a boost it will be for Madhu Baba's image among his current followers and potential followers, and perhaps even among Sai university alumni who are inclined towards Mhalli Gang! A Swami student who was staff till recently at Prasanthi Nilayam ashram accepts Madhu, the idiot (called by many) as Swami or Swami successor and is publicly worshiping Madhu. like people worshiped Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba!
THE QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THE LEADERS OF SAI ALUMNI AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO SAY - VERY LIKELY THEY WILL SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO - HA HA HA - UNFORTUNATELY, SWAMI REFERRED TO THEM AS HIS SOTHU (PROPERTY)
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, MOST OF THE SAI DEVOTEES WOULD KEEP WATCHING THESE INCIDENTS AND DO NOTHING ABOUT IT AND IGNORE SUCH INCIDENTS AND KEEP QUIET. IS THERE NO WAY OUT?
SWAMI - PLEASE SHOW US THE PATH.
Sairam --name-snipped--! Many others have commented wisely on this thread refuting the FALSE CLAIM of Madhusudan Rao Naidu.
What I have realized is that some people yearn for having physical form level interactions with Swami so much that they are willing to believe that Swami enters Madhusudan's body and so they worship Madhu as Swami! For people like me who have experienced physical form of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba for many years in Puttaparthi, we find it ridiculous that some people including a few who have had close physical proximity with Bhagavan physical form in the past, are propagating this Madhu Baba FALSE BELIEF and trying to justify that on the basis of the free service educational and medical services they are providing.
Now people openly take Padanamaskar of Madhu Baba and kneel before him. If Swami really enters Madhu Baba then even Narasimhamurthy and C. Srinivas and other senior Sai university alumni who have propagated this FALSE BELIEF, should also kneel before Madhu and take Padanamaskar of him. Am I not right there?
But they are not doing that. Why? In fact, if you observe people like C. Srinivas carefully when he is on stage with Madhu Baba you will find that he treats him like a junior! Even Narasimhamurthy sits on an equal status chair as that of Madhu Baba. We know what ****awesome**** presence physical form Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba had. In his presence in Sai Kulwant Hall, all persons would be very reverential to him. I am sure if anybody sincerely compares videos of C. Srinivas and Narasimhamurthy with physical form Bhagavan, and videos of them with this FALSE CLAIM so-called communicator Madhusudan Rao Naidu, they will see the differences for themselves and know that both Narasimhamurthy and C. Srinivas don't really worship Madhu as Swami even when Swami is supposed to have entered Madhu's body.
But then some people want to worship a Swami student as Swami, now that Swami's physical form is not there. And note that this Swami student, Madhu, was never really a big form boy like Satyajit or other big form boys. Still they want to worship Madhu. What can be done then? We have freedom of religious worship in India. While my view is that a legal challenge in India can be made by Sri Sathya Sai Central Trust (SSSCT) against Madhusudan Rao Naidu for stealing the name of our beloved Lord Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba, for Madhu's darshan, interview and discourses, SSSCT has not made that legal challenge. Perhaps SSSCT wants to avoid harsh publicity that might come if such a case is filed in court.
So Madhu freely goes around with his FALSE CLAIM which is endorsed and propagated by Narasimhamurthy, C. Srinivas and others. Those who want to worship him as Sathya Sai cannot be stopped from doing so. We can only advise them that they are following a fake communicator. They are free to ignore our advice.
Hope this comment helps. Thanks. Jai Sairam!
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In response to a comment about legal actions taken by Sai Org, I wrote (slightly edited):
Sairam! As far as I know, that was a letter from USA Sai orgn. which pertains to activities done in the USA. Further, I believe that MDH group ignored their letter warning and continued to hold the programs they had scheduled in the USA.
As far as I know, no legal challenge has been issued in India to MDH group from Sai orgn or from any Sai devotee group, for MDH group's unauthorized (and improper) use of name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba in India.
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In response to a comment about Sai orgn. having had some success in legal actions against MDH group in one foreign country, I wrote (slightly edited):
Great to hear that. Let's hope something similar happens in India, especially in Karnataka state of India where Muddenahalli falls. BTW my personal view is that somebody should file a PIL (Public Interest Litigation) in Karnataka High Court against Madhusudan Rao Naidu for unauthorisedly using the name of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba for Madhu's darshan, interviews and discourses. I am not in a position to do that myself though. Here's my blog post giving my views on the matter, in case you want to have a look at it: Satyajit opens up on Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudhan Naidu; I (Ravi) recommend PIL against Madhusudhan Naidu, https://ravisiyer.blogspot.com/2015/10/satyajit-opens-up-on-narasimhamurthy.html, dated 2nd Oct. 2015.
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I later commented (slightly edited):
For any reasonable person who has studied the matter, it is clear as daylight that Madhusudan Rao Naidu is making a FALSE CLAIM. But then what I have realized is that there is a big market - yes, market is the word - for claimed mediums and communicators of Sathya Sai, after Mahasamadhi, as there are many Sathya Sai devotees who very badly want to believe in such mediums and communicators. Madhu has tapped that market BIGTIME. There are others too who have tapped the market but these people do not do public drama of darshan and discourses.
Essentially, there is a demand among some Sathya Sai devotees for such mediums and communicators and both Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Naidu satisfied that market demand with their dream-instruction and communicator claims.
-------- end my comments on Facebook ------------------------
Given below are the contents of Mr. V.R. Ganti's Facebook post: MADHU IS MADE A HERO BY SAI ALUMNUS WHO WAS PRASHANTHI NILAYAM STAFF HITHERTO, https://www.facebook.com/notes/vr-ganti/madhu-is-made-a-hero-by-sai-alumnus-who-was-prashanthi-nilayam-staff-hitherto/10211271398565405, dated 26th Dec. 2017
From around 25:11 in this Christmas Eve video, see this guy who was student-staff in PN ashram till recently, kneel before Madhu and then take Padanamaskar almost of Madhu (I say almost as he does not touch Madhu's feet):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw2-dg2qvrw
[To open pic in higher resolution, right-click on pic followed by open in new tab/window. In new tab/window you may have to click on pic to zoom in.]
What a horrible thing to see! Sai alumnus-kneeling before Madhu, the FRAUDSTER. Sai Alumnus-taking Padnamaskar of Madhu.
This person seems to be a junior of Madhusudan Rao Naidu and is a singer, I believe. As I wrote earlier, he was with the PN ashram system till recently. But I did not see him as a lead singer in whatever few videos I have seen recently of PN ashram events - I could be wrong here though. I see him being given a lead singer kind of role/job in the Muddenahalli group. Perhaps that higher-profile role in Mhalli Group and perhaps same or better salary may have been the clincher.
I think this is the first time I am seeing a Sai university alumnus (who also was a PN ashram staff) take Padanamaskar of Madhu Baba (and that too publicly).
What a boost it will be for Madhu Baba's image among his current followers and potential followers, and perhaps even among Sai university alumni who are inclined towards Mhalli Gang! A Swami student who was staff till recently at Prasanthi Nilayam ashram accepts Madhu, the idiot (called by many) as Swami or Swami successor and is publicly worshiping Madhu. like people worshiped Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba!
THE QUESTION IS WHERE ARE THE LEADERS OF SAI ALUMNI AND WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO SAY - VERY LIKELY THEY WILL SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO - HA HA HA - UNFORTUNATELY, SWAMI REFERRED TO THEM AS HIS SOTHU (PROPERTY)
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, MOST OF THE SAI DEVOTEES WOULD KEEP WATCHING THESE INCIDENTS AND DO NOTHING ABOUT IT AND IGNORE SUCH INCIDENTS AND KEEP QUIET. IS THERE NO WAY OUT?
SWAMI - PLEASE SHOW US THE PATH.
--- end contents of Mr. V.R. Ganti's post ----
[I thank Mr. V.R. Ganti and have presumed that he will not have any objections to me sharing the above contents of his Facebook post on this blog post, which is freely viewable by all, and does not have any financial profit motive whatsoever.]
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